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Red meat for breakfast!

I won't even take the easy shots from you.

What flaws do you see in his study and conclusions?

Remember, he is a professional and highly trained in his art. He is obviously discerning things far beyond what you and I are capable of.

Website has a map that adds even more "duh!" to the obvious he is missing.

I was forced to excerpt it due to size.

The entire article will start your weekend with a laugh and confidence in ultimate victory......because the educated elite in the opposition are morons.

The PhD may not be stupid, but he is blind.

Whatever they pay this guy....they shouldn't.

1 posted on 04/06/2013 3:51:17 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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So, conservatism and gun ownership will be defined as a mental illness and gun confiscation can begin.

It's not a matter of if but when.

2 posted on 04/06/2013 3:57:10 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Although total suicide rates in the U.S. are not much higher than in other Western countries

IOW, Americans (actually mostly American men) commit suicide using a gun because one is available. If it were not available, the suicide method would change but probably not the result.

3 posted on 04/06/2013 3:58:30 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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What has everyone got against suicide?


4 posted on 04/06/2013 3:59:20 AM PDT by dalereed
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Scientific studies have conclusively demonstrated 99.99% of all violent felons in federal prisons ate hamburgers and French fries as children; therefore, we need to ban hamburgers and French fries immediately! It's for the sake of the children! Which would you rather do: give up fatty foods that aren't good for you, anyway, or watch millions of innocent little children be killed every year? Trust the all-wise, all-pervading, all-powerful state!
5 posted on 04/06/2013 4:08:17 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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I’d Fisk that article all the way down, but it would use up the Internet. Would make an excellent case study for a Logic 101 class though. “science Daily” indeed!

TC


7 posted on 04/06/2013 4:16:27 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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Any beginning Sociology textbook will debunk this.
The earliest Sociologist who studied suicide, Emile Durckheim, recognized that suicide is higher is sparsely populated areas, where people have fewer opportunities to bond with their neighbors. Sparsely populated areas are usually rural, and have more conservative tendencies.
It has nothing to do with church membership, or gun ownership. In fact, church membership inhibits social deviance.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 4:18:10 AM PDT by CivilWarguy
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The counties where Obama won have had the most mass shootings; Pima Co, Arapahoe and Adams counties, Fairfield County, and Milwaukee County


9 posted on 04/06/2013 4:18:21 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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Whew! I thought this researcher had found us out, but i don’t see it in Augustine’s study.

Y’all KNOW it’s only a matter of time before they find about all the Russian Roulette parties we conservatives are so fond of having, don’t you? So try extra hard to keep it on the downlow, aight?!


10 posted on 04/06/2013 4:21:11 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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“The PhD may not be stupid, but he is blind.”

The first question you ask your customer is “What are you trying to prove?” Then, you craft your work to answer that question to the customer’s satisfaction. That way you get repeat business. If you tell the truth not only won’t it get published, but you’ll never got his business again.

Bering a PhD. is a business proposition, not for science.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 4:22:08 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Well, for the first obvious thing, the numbers used for the main conclusion (intended to denigrate the freedom-loving Western states) is based on awfully small numbers. This makes them statistically suspect.

For example, let's just take the first 3 states mentioned, who are obviously mentioned first because they have the most significance, right?

The "average" rate is 11.82 per 100,000 residents (top of 2nd, bottom of 3rd quartiles). The very highest must be the 20.08 mentioned.

So let's suppose that we calculate what it would take to move the very "worst" states into the "below average" group, or say from 20.08 to 11.81 (and in fact only one of the 3 could have that highest number anyway)

State / Population 2010 / suicides if 20.08 / suicides if 11.81 / Difference
AK / 710,231 / 142 / 83 / 59
MT / 989,415 / 198 / 116 / 82
WY / 563,626 / 113 / 66 / 47
total of 3 / 2,262,000 / 453 / 265 / 188

And so, we can see that if a grand total of 188 fewer people in 3 states had committed suicide*, this study would be absolutely undercut and no left-wing conclusion would even be possible.

(*) and do we know that the years 2000-2006 that were used were NOT cherry-picked to match the predetermined conclusion? Sounds like global shooting to me.

14 posted on 04/06/2013 4:29:55 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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The entire article is a publish or perish extrapolation imagination.


15 posted on 04/06/2013 4:47:41 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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With few exceptions, states with the highest rates of murder -- for example, IL, NY, PA, MI, and DC -- also tended to have the highest suicide rates. These states were also carried overwhelmingly by Baraq 0bama in the 2008 presidential election.

That was fun.

5.56mm

16 posted on 04/06/2013 4:48:00 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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suicide


18 posted on 04/06/2013 4:55:14 AM PDT by quintr
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Suicide Risk Linked to Rates of Gun Ownership, Political Conservatism

If true, why exactly would the libtards care?

19 posted on 04/06/2013 6:02:05 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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Conservatives kill themselves. Only a few.

Liberals/Progressives kill others. By the thousands.

End of argument.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 6:05:53 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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White Christian conservatives are being built up to be the next Armenian Jewish kulaks.

And you know what comes after that.

Imagine the bottom cartoon aimed against blacks or Hispanics. The "cartoonist" would be fired and exiled. But white conservative Christians are fair game for the liberal hate campaign, getting their base ready for pogroms or worse.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 6:08:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The U.S. ranks 34th in the world in sucide rate per 100k. There’s quite a few socialist or severe gun restriction countries ahead of the U.S. Bogus study. Like if someone wanted to commit suicide, they’d only do it with a gun. Complete and utter bovine excrement.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 6:16:08 AM PDT by driftless2
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"the United States is poised to remain a very armed and potentially dangerous nation for its inhabitants for years to come."

Damn straight! Give these pukes from "Science Daily" something to think about while they spew their propaganda.

26 posted on 04/06/2013 6:25:18 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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They should ban carrots.

Every single person who has eaten a carrot has died.....eventually.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 6:55:27 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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The left favors suicide last I checked.

They just don’t like the competition. Surprised they didn’t call them scabs.


30 posted on 04/06/2013 7:07:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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