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If North Korea Starts a War the United States Will Lose
johngaltfla.com ^ | 4-2-13 | Johngaltfla

Posted on 04/02/2013 4:17:25 PM PDT by dynachrome

The United States faces, in my opinion, a less than 0.5% chance of being hit by a crude or advanced fission type nuclear weapon by North Korea. In fact the delivery systems they currently possess limit the ability of the regime in Pyongyang to very few targets outside of their region, putting US troops at risk but worse, the ability to destroy America does exist in that region. One map illustrating the targets of highest probability demonstrates why:

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bho44; nationalsecurity; nknukes; northkorea; nukes; redchina; war
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To: Renegade

The patient was an unshielded source detected at a few feet. A nuclear weapon in Earth orbit will be shielded by its casing and be hundreds of miles away. The intensity of any radioactive decay signal diminishes as the square of the distance. Norad might be able to estimate a satellite’s density, but that can be spoofed also.


61 posted on 04/02/2013 6:21:23 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

If it were an EMP device, it probably doesn’t matter that the attitude control system has gone haywire; as long as they could arm and set it off at a particular time.


62 posted on 04/02/2013 6:21:23 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: Flintlock
High Altitude (300 miles up kinda high) EMP

Combine your post with the one just before it, and you have a missile with a warhead smuggled in via container ship, then launched straight up from the interior of the US. It takes about 5 mins to reach 250-300 miles altitude for HEMP. We would not be able to stop that.

63 posted on 04/02/2013 6:29:22 PM PDT by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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To: CMB_polarization
You don't?

Current space radar can SEE through the Earth's surface down 30 miles to detect if not resolve tectonic plates sinking ~ Geology magazine abot 2 and a half years back had a great article on the use of space radar to look at the plate plunging underneath/near the magma plume that underlies Yellowstone.

It's all in the sensitivity of the receptors and the capability of the computer software to figure out what it is.

So, yup, you can find a shipload of ceramic floor tile from China with the requisite uranium content FROM SPACE.

Those were the usual $6 per square foot tiles ~ and they went on sale ~ once they were allowed to land ~ since that radioactivity wasn't of serious concern ~ for about $0.60 per tile. I did the basement!

64 posted on 04/02/2013 6:30:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
LOL ... Did you use the sheet-rock from China also?
65 posted on 04/02/2013 6:35:08 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dynachrome

China’s president said a while ago that that his greatest concern is that if he does not create 25 million new jobs each year, the Chinese people will riot and overthrow his regime and send the country into chaos.

If NK messes up our economy, we will not be able to buy as much Chinese stuff and that will cause factories to close in China and China will be consumed with internal strife.

China must prop up the USA in order for its regime to survive.

Therefore, China will step in and tell Kim3 to tone it down. China might just stage a diplomatic coup by negotiating a “peace treaty” between Obama, South Korea and NK. Kim3 will then be hailed as a Great World Hero who stood up to the USA and “won”.

We are not going to war and NK will not lob a rocket towards us. Also, we probably know exactly what is in the satellite package NK launched a while ago. If it was hot, I am sure that Tom Clancy could tell us how we would cause it to de-orbit into the Marianas Trench.

I am not worried about NK as much as I am about Obamacare.


66 posted on 04/02/2013 6:53:34 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: dynachrome

The scary part....

1) Idiot Boy is being manipulated.

2) They have nothing to lose except population, which they would gladly sacrifice.

3) It’s difficult to bomb them back to the stone age when that is where they already live.

Just a thought or two.


67 posted on 04/02/2013 6:55:14 PM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

There’s a lot of common sense in your post.


68 posted on 04/02/2013 6:56:27 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
What better way to create jobs than to destroy a nation and then rebuild it? Think WWII.
69 posted on 04/02/2013 6:58:24 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

If we had any credit capacity, I would agree with you. But we and the world are tapped out.

Also, factories were a lot simpler in 1945 and so were the products they produced.

In a disaster scenario, there would be shortages, which fuel inflation. Arguably, a period of hyperinflation would allow us to pay back our debt with lower value dollars and we could balance our budget. But, the human suffering would be awful during such a global reset.

Obamacare is stealing your disposable income faster than inflation or NK.

If our government really wanted to accelerate the closure of Kim3’s latest tirade, Obama would give a speech and declare NK to be a worthless acquisition for the USA and we would never invade it for that reason. That would really confuse the NK’s.


70 posted on 04/02/2013 7:15:25 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
NK does want to be annexed by some nation. The cries from NK make this clear. My thought is there is no confusion. China has her plan. Russia has her plan. NK is a pawn. Iran is a pawn. America too has a plan. zer0 has a plan. Put all the plans into a wet paper bag and see which one breaks the bag first. Everyone stands to lose (worldwide). NK and Iran also hold wild cards. Israel holds a wild card. Three wild cards in a deck of cards make for interesting hands. The factor of chess being in play makes for some interesting Kings, of which there are more than two on this chess board. zer0 thinks he is a Queen. The numerous Kings on the chess board agree. But, the human suffering would be awful during such a global reset. And then there are always the guarantees.
71 posted on 04/02/2013 7:24:17 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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just for fun if anything is hanging ... </i></b>


72 posted on 04/02/2013 7:31:04 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: svcw

“I did read this AM that China is moving troops to the north, to position them closer to North Korea.
Even though China has tried to reason with this loon, I personally think they are sick of the twerp.
China could lose the same number of people that are in all of North Korea and still have a billion people, they may just swarm and wipe out the whole place.”

It is not only your opinion. I have Chinese friends who currently live in China who say that the ChiComs are totally fed up with the Norks. They also fear that if war does start then Nork refugees will pour into China and they do not want that to happen.


73 posted on 04/02/2013 7:34:45 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Or the container ship is from N. Korea painted and flagged to represent a S. Korean vessel.


74 posted on 04/02/2013 7:36:50 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Leveling the playing field for a Progressive is dragging everyone down to their level.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Thanks, that adds to my info world.
This is not going to end well for the people of North Korea, I weep for the regular Joe........and at the same time want to smash that twerp Un into dust.


75 posted on 04/02/2013 7:37:08 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: dynachrome


76 posted on 04/02/2013 7:41:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
The people on the street never make the decisions. Leaders sometimes do not make decisions. When leaders do make decisions the masses are seldom told till the consequences of those decisions made by the leaders are in play and then most of the time the leaders just simply say to themselves ... Hey the people on the street wouldn't understand anyways, why bother to try and explain. Dark Ages.
77 posted on 04/02/2013 7:43:01 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dynachrome

We just need to have the “B@lls” to just drop a few bunker busters in various STRATEGIC locations around N Korea and then tell them the next round will be Nuclear.


78 posted on 04/02/2013 7:45:04 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr
Might work. Might work as a strategy on iran too. Policy though appears to be wait till we are hit. That (imho) is not wise.
79 posted on 04/02/2013 7:47:33 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: rbg81

china will not enter the fray—They will be cheerleaders but not take part—least they loose there WalMart cash cow the USA. They may even help to end it once North Korea hurts Japan and South Korea—ending them as Rivals to China. Obama will be their cat’s paw and end the war! With aid to the north. He will get a second Peace Prize too. In one blow China gets the whole of Asia as their own economical empire! who loses? Freedom.


80 posted on 04/02/2013 8:56:11 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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