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If North Korea Starts a War the United States Will Lose
johngaltfla.com ^ | 4-2-13 | Johngaltfla

Posted on 04/02/2013 4:17:25 PM PDT by dynachrome

The United States faces, in my opinion, a less than 0.5% chance of being hit by a crude or advanced fission type nuclear weapon by North Korea. In fact the delivery systems they currently possess limit the ability of the regime in Pyongyang to very few targets outside of their region, putting US troops at risk but worse, the ability to destroy America does exist in that region. One map illustrating the targets of highest probability demonstrates why:

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bho44; nationalsecurity; nknukes; northkorea; nukes; redchina; war
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To: dynachrome

“The North Koreans only need to strike two cities, Seoul in South Korea and Tokyo in Japan and the United States of America reverts to a level of economic activity equal to pre-World War II levels if we are lucky.”

Yeah, right. The idea that the United States GDP of today could contract to 10% of its size is ludicrous.

Even in the Great Depression, the GDP of that time only contracted to about 70% of it’s regular size.


21 posted on 04/02/2013 5:02:38 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: ClearCase_guy

Shipments in South Korea are far far more secure than those in the US. Anyone seeking to bribe one of the dockworkers better be ready to get beat to death.

Far more likely NK would come up through Mexico.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 5:03:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wuli

You do realize of course the norks put something in orbit last December? It is still out there zipping around the earth.
Do you also realize our southern border is basically not monitored right now from a de-orbital stand point?
While on the surface of those two facts it would be easy to say the norks are up to something and exploiting us, I also believe there is collusion here and the norks are the bait, not the actual delivery mechanism, a “look over here” type thing while the rest of the axis is busy plotting and setting plans in motion.
We are weaker now than we have ever been in the lat sixty years and ripe for being struck.
Your “homepage” says you are from New Jersey, I hope you are discarding all this hyperbole because you are stocked up and armed to the teeth. Things probably won’t bode well for you otherwise if we have any kind of societal collapse.


23 posted on 04/02/2013 5:03:39 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Wuli

Kim III could likely expend his entire nuclear arsenal on Tokyo and Seoul without destroying either location. Rebuilding rather than cascading economic collapse would be my guess. It might even damage China more by forcing refugees to either flood the Chinese border regions or by forcing China to kill them (the more likely outcome).

So, the ones to watch are China and Russia should they decide America is fatally weak and move quickly after a NK attack to take us out without worrying about the feckless one’s reaction. A blitz is the way other countries can beat us. Obama would never decide what to do.


24 posted on 04/02/2013 5:07:47 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: dynachrome
We have the capability to find radioactive materials from space ~ we even busted a shipload of ceramic and clay floor tile that way.

There's a reason we poured billions of bucks into that technology.

North Korea is just one of many.

25 posted on 04/02/2013 5:08:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Wuli; dfwgator; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Hyper Bole!


26 posted on 04/02/2013 5:11:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: CMB_polarization

News flash: They already have an “innocent looking” satellite in low Earth orbit.


27 posted on 04/02/2013 5:16:05 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Wuli
More bad news, Wuli. Many peasants in North Korea are eating bark and grass. The "stone age" would be a step up for some of them. They have nothing we want. They make nothing we want.

Have you seen those satellite photos of North Korea at night?

28 posted on 04/02/2013 5:18:57 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

A real possibility.


29 posted on 04/02/2013 5:19:14 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: rbg81

“However, I don’t see China as being the primary beneficiary.”

NK is a lose lose case for China.

China would lose big time and for a long time if she intervened on behalf of NK following a NK nuclear hit on anyone.

China will lose big time, and maybe for all time, if it’s bid for hegemony in Asia has to meet Japan, India plus a united Korea following a SK reunification of the penninsula.


30 posted on 04/02/2013 5:20:28 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
NK would be placed back in the stone ages

May want to view satellite photos of NK at night.

31 posted on 04/02/2013 5:23:27 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

My apology. Should have read ahead before making my post.


32 posted on 04/02/2013 5:26:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“The “stone age” would be a step up for some of them.”

actually, my comment was in reference to the infrastructure - physical, governmental and commercial that keeps the regime running and keeps those in and working for the regime with the means to continue - they too would be eating bark like the NK citizens they prefer to let starve (when they aren’t killing them slowly in the gulag)

no matter what happened to Seoul, our and the SKs biggest problem would be the masses heading south to SK and not only would the NK thugs not be able to stop them, the rank and file and the leaders spies would be joining them


33 posted on 04/02/2013 5:27:51 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
China will lose big time, and maybe for all time

Would make sense if the Saudis had lost after 911 and there was recorded history for China to view. China maybe is thinking there is a record of weakness and there is nothing to worry about.

34 posted on 04/02/2013 5:29:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dynachrome

The North Koreans don’t have to put up will all the lawyers, judges, politicians with their goofy ROE bull****. The author is probably right. “Geneva Convention? What Geneva Convention? This is war.” - Kim Jong-un


35 posted on 04/02/2013 5:30:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: muawiyah

State police have radiation detection units so sensitive that they pulled a guy over because of the isotope he had in his blood from a medical screening that was picked up by just passing the vehicle.


36 posted on 04/02/2013 5:32:53 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Michael Barnes

I do NOT suggest that there are NOT many possibilities we need to be aware of, learn all we can about and be prepared for.

What I do reject is the specific scenarios and the specific consequences, and consequences of those consequences that the author seems so sure about.


37 posted on 04/02/2013 5:33:33 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

The laws of physics.


38 posted on 04/02/2013 5:35:24 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

“China maybe is thinking there is a record of weakness and there is nothing to worry about.”

China could also be considering that with the Iraq theater but a minor nuisance at this time, and with the Afghan theater being wound down, the U.S. may be less distracted as concerns it’s strategic interests in Asia, and therefor NOT a good time to test any perceived “weakness”.

I have never been good at reading tea leaves.


39 posted on 04/02/2013 5:38:44 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Flintlock

your simpler more direct approach to
an attack sounds more realistic and
much more frightening-—thanks for
sharing-—food for thought

i am so totally unprepared for any of
these-—seemingly-—outlandish possibilities

kg-nancy


40 posted on 04/02/2013 5:38:46 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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