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To: I got the rope; GenXteacher; Windflier; TigersEye; saleman; All

IF you all were talking about CORRECT appeals to the court which failed, THEN I would agree that we are past the time when following the law worked.

BUT - you are not. NONE of you can show me correct appeals. NONE of you can show me where definitions that are actually in the law, which limit these laws to application to corporate officers, or government employees ONLY, have EVER been tried, let alone failed. Or openly discussed and presented by the population to the government.

Hell, most of you don’t even care that this astonishing fact exists! I mean, the discovery that corporate officer and government employee laws are being wrongly applied should have everyone’s attention, because it is the very secret of how things got so out of control and how they can be reigned in peacefully.

But no. Not a glance. Nothing except a bunch of couch cowboys talking crap about a shooting revolution.

Well, you might be shills, hired to spout nonsense and keep people away from the truth. But you’re not all shills, and that’s the damn shame. Everyone’s a hero until the first shot is fired, and then you all will want to talk, but it will be too late. Even a child can see the Obama administration is trying everything it can think of to get people to lose it, and strike back with violence. We should be doing everything we can to calm people down, to examine the laws, to learn and refine our response, and NOT RESPOND WITH VIOLENCE.

Hell, I posted an entire analysis showing that none less than the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court risked everything he has to TRY to show the way out of this mess, almost literally pointing out the areas of the law Americans need to study and focus on. Obamacare DOESN’T EVEN APPLY TO YOU. But you’d rather go buy a gun then learn how that could possibly be.

But ask yourself - WHAT could the damn Democrats and Liberals do if conservatives exposed their misuse of the laws IN COURT, and had the Court AGREE to the limitations of these laws? The Communist threat would vanish without a shot!

But Obama laughs because YOU won’t study the law HE did, so YOU can’t catch HIM in his lies.

No, instead, we have a bunch of damn fool cowboys who don’t understand that the law is the REASON the Founders fought. They didn’t fight TO fight, they fought to establish the law. They’re turning over in their graves at the thought that the country they fought so hard for is dying because it’s people - who call themselves, of all things, patriots - can’t be bothered to even learn the law all that fighting was for.

You’ll only know what true fools you are when the law you spurn is gone.


26 posted on 03/04/2013 8:24:10 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
Nothing except a bunch of couch cowboys talking crap about a shooting revolution.

You full of crap.

28 posted on 03/04/2013 8:51:11 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Talisker
...we have a bunch of damn fool cowboys who don’t understand that the law is the REASON the Founders fought.

Friend, I resent you dumping on cowboys the way you are. If it weren't for the 'cowboy' types in America, we wouldn't have a country to begin with.

Maybe you're not aware of it, but only 3% of the men in the original 13 colonies had the guts to pick up a rifle and fire at the British. That measley and forlorn 3% faced down the greatest military machine on the planet, and won our freedom.

Those brave and sterling men were America's first 'cowboys', and don't you ever forget it.

Likewise, today there's a certain percentage of American manhood (and womanhood) who are willing and able to stand and fight to preserve our nation in the face of unprecedented tyranny. They understand that the established protocols of the civil order have been subverted and turned inside out to prohibit the People from having any true power, or from achieving any real redress of grievances from the state.

The Constitution was written for a moral people. That's us, but we're no longer in charge. The traitors are, and they're not about to let you 'work within the system' to force them to do what the Constitution and the law SAYS THEY MUST.

Get it through your head that THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. IT DOES NOT WORK. Scream your fool head off about the law all day and night, but our government is LAWLESS.

Wake up!

29 posted on 03/04/2013 8:55:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Talisker

Learn all the law you want, but it won’t matter. How complicated is “...shall not be infringed”? It’s a terse yet global clause. The meaning is not opaque to anyone taking the language of the age into account, and yet here we are buried under a mountain of infringements. It doesn’t matter anymore because leftist judges with life tenure have been and are now writing opinions specifically geared toward advancing policy—leftist policy. This is one of the poisonous fruits of the Left’s march through the institutions. America has already crossed the Rubicon and is entering the post-legal age.


30 posted on 03/04/2013 10:06:45 PM PST by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized. It ain't about hunting)
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To: Talisker

So, how did all that trying to work within the system work out for the 1st Continental Congress? History teaches us that if you wait for redress of your grievances from an oppressive enemy, you will wait forever.


36 posted on 03/05/2013 3:25:14 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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