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Lots of chatter on the left about Governor Palin lately.

I wonder what's up?

1 posted on 01/19/2013 5:32:24 PM PST by Bratch
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The conservative base can be seen as suffering from a desire to submit to an authoritarian who represents “traditional values”.

Well, I guess that's a correct statement. Course the fact the the moon could be "seen" to be made of green cheese doesn't mean that it IS made of green cheese.

103 posted on 01/19/2013 9:54:34 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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She was their commander in chief. If she want’s to disarm them, as members of the units, when they are “on duty”, she can. She can’t disarm them of their private arms, even if the ones they were using for militia duty were privately owned. Seems like not the thing to do, but the story doesn’t seem to give the details of the reason for doing so.


104 posted on 01/19/2013 9:56:42 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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Now if Palin could disarm Obama’s SS then she would be making him less of a hypocrite.
107 posted on 01/19/2013 11:23:59 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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A decision to disband a state militia is not a violation of the constitution. A federal government disarming it’s citizens is a violation of the constitution.

It doesn’t matter who does it. The article is comparing a constitutional act with one that is not constitutional.


111 posted on 01/20/2013 12:01:46 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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Ping


117 posted on 01/20/2013 6:42:03 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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This is leftist drivel.

Adorno and adherents of the Frankfurt School have written all about the “authoritarian” tendencies of conservatives.

IIRC, about 8 years or so ago, there was a “metastudy” done by Kruglanski, et. al. that beat the same drum.

Note: a “meta study” is a study performed that examines previous studies that have been done. IOW, no original work, just new conclusions.

‘Pod.


125 posted on 01/20/2013 2:39:11 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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Some questions about who owned the guns. This article addresses that and more.

Mark America: The Desperate Fraud of the Anti-Palin Left

A couple days ago, some imbecile — no doubt one of Obama’s low-information voters — at a far-left blog wrote a piece in which she claimed Governor Palin “disarmed the Alaska civil militia” when she was Alaska’s chief executive. The aforementioned hebetudinous blogger then attempts (and fails miserably) to turn this nonsense into some kind of an attack on Governor Palin’s credibility: How can the Governor criticize Obama’s attack on second amendment rights when she “disarmed” her state’s militia? Presumably the conclusion she wants her low-information readers to arrive at is that Governor Palin is secretly an anti-gun zealot and, therefore, any criticism she directs toward Obama is hypocritical. Or something. Anyway, our friend Mark America is all over this idiocy:

If you’ve ever wondered about the motive driving the anti-Palin left, sufferers of Palin Derangement Syndrome(PDS,) or other venom-laden spittle disguised as reporting, wonder no longer.  Willing to twist or omit facts, relying instead upon the absolute gullibility of their audiences, their intention is to propagandize by virtue of one-thousand easily discredited cuts, knowing that their less-than-curious audiences will buy almost anything without question or critical analysis.  In most cases, the manner in which a supporter of Sarah Palin will defend against such garbage is to first attack the fraudulent author’s  propaganda, presenting the facts that negate the false charges leveled by the propagandist involved.  The problem is that these people are so despicable that they don’t care if they’re caught lying by the sane world, as they know their Low Information Audiences won’t ever discover the truth.  I’m going to do it somewhat differently, because I want you to experience the shock value of knowing the real story before reading the propaganda.  For once, you ought to know what it must be like to be Sarah Palin, or anybody else who is attacked in this manner, because having lived reality, it must be shocking to see facts about oneself twisted into such devious propaganda.

Let’s consider a story that had appeared in the Anchorage Daily News, way back in October of 2008, as Sarah Palin was busy campaigning for the office of Vice President with Presidential candidate John McCain.  During the previous summer, before Palin had been chosen as McCain’s running mate, an investigation by authorities had concluded with a recommendation by Lt. Gen. Craig Campbell, the state’s military and veterans affairs commissioner that an all-volunteer militia led by Brig. General Thomas Westall, created to assist the Nation Guard, ought to be disarmed of state-owned and provided weapons over potential liability issues for the state.  This investigation had stemmed from a complaint filed by a member, Larry Wood, because he felt the militia commander might be issuing arbitrary orders and dismissals to members, he himself having been dismissed for unclear cause by his own account.   In short, this was a situation in which responsible Alaska State officials were heading off any potential liability situation for the state.  This sort of action is undertaken by any responsible state official who is concerned with making policies and taking decisions consistent with their official mandates.  It had been concluded by investigators that the militia had insufficient policies and procedures, such that its control and direction had come into question.  The article in the ADN had been: Defense Commander Resigns After Complaints.

If you’re at all like me, you look at the facts of the story, and conclude that the State of Alaska had been concerned there could be some sort of monkey-business going on with the force, known as the 49th Military Police Brigade since 2004, and the state rightly did not wish to take on liability for a force that had not such proper procedures and policies in place to deal with personnel matters, or much of anything.  Nobody was criminally sanctioned, or in any way prosecuted, but the state simply decided that they could not permit this force to be armed in its name any longer.  That’s not so unusual, and bluntly, no public official wants a poorly-organized force armed with State authority to carry on much of anything in an official capacity.  Who could blame either Lt. General Campbell, or Governor Sarah Palin for taking what can only be categorized as perfectly natural and responsible actions?  Well, there is somebody, and predictably, that somebody is a professional  propagandist of the organized left.

Now that you’ve read through the originating story, and are at least familiar with the facts of the case, I now wish to present to you the fantastic tale of Palin anti-gun hypocrisy cobbled together by certified PDS sufferer Sarah Jones, of Politicususa.  If ever you have wondered what it is like to be Sarah Palin, imagine if you will what one must feel when reading the following nonsensical, inane and distorted headline, knowing what you already do:

The Right Calls Obama a Dictator, but Sarah Palin Disarmed the Alaska Civil Militia

The first thing that should grab you is that the story changed title, becoming more dishonest, thereby venting more rage in Sarah Palin’s direction.  Examing the URL of the story tells the tale. Notice that the author changed the label of the disarmed group from “Defense Force” to “Civil Militia” in order to cause readers to wonder if Palin had disarmed ordinary citizens.  Titles have been:

  • Tea Party Darling Sarah Palin Disarmed Alaska State Defense Force
  • The Right Calls Obama a Dictator, but Sarah Palin Disarmed the Alaska Civil Militia

Given the nature of the website in question, we might well expect the next mutation of the title to be:

  • Palin Takes Guns from Alaska Schoolhouse Defense League While Right Wing Racist NRA Klansmen Cheer

Don’t laugh.  I expect that title to appear at any time.  Part and parcel of that site’s schtick is to paint all conservatives, but particularly Sarah Palin, with the broadly damning brushes of racism, “extremism,” violence and hypocrisy.  These are pathologically broken individuals, based on the content of their stories, but fortunately, only what must be considered a “Low Information Voter” could possibly believe the nonsense authored there.

There’s much more to Mark’s piece and I urge to go here and read the whole thing. When I see the Left continuing to use this kind of tortured pretzel logic and outright lies to attack Governor Palin, I can’t help but wonder why they spend so much time and effort on someone they insist is no longer relevant. Am I missing something?



131 posted on 01/21/2013 9:54:10 AM PST by Bratch
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From the story, it sounds like Gov. Palin didn’t DISARM them, she disbanded the organization, due to liability concerns. As far as I know, the men still have the weapons they purchased privately.


132 posted on 01/21/2013 4:13:10 PM PST by SuziQ
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