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Vanity - Don't own a gun - need advice
1/13/2013 | Aria

Posted on 01/13/2013 8:21:40 PM PST by Aria

I live in what is considered a safe neighborhood and stay in "safe" areas, never had a problem YET.

Not familiar with guns although my husband used to have quite a collection and I had a Baretta shotgun. I'm not so much afraid of home invasions or robberies at this point - but times are changing. What I'm more afraid of is our government setting off a stampede of marauding hoards.

I have NO clue what might be useful for me - need advice.


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To: KrisKrinkle

No. The translation is never reveal a gun unless you intend to use it.

Bluffing and brandishing is how you end up getting killed with your own gun.


41 posted on 01/13/2013 9:27:35 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Robert357

Shotguns are not appropriate for many women. They’re cumbersome, and if you’re petite the recoil can knock you off your feet. In my opinion, the best long gun for a woman is the Ruger mini-14. It’s a powerful .223 that can hold a large-capacity clip, but it’s lightweight, easy to handle, and has almost no recoil at all. A perfect lady’s rifle for home defense.


42 posted on 01/13/2013 9:28:18 PM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Aria

A lot of the polymer framed pistols have grip inserts that allow the gun to better fit your hand. A good place to start is with a firearm that feels comfortable to hold and shoot, one that feels right for you.


43 posted on 01/13/2013 9:37:04 PM PST by pallis
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To: Aria

There are people recommending rifles and this can be a good choice. BUT ... if you live in an apartment complex, condo, or a neighborhood where the houses are really close together, a rifle is not the best choice since most rifle rounds will go through a wall and out ... to where? A shotgun and most pistol calibers will not penetrate the walls in most homes or apartments, and even if they do it will be with very little energy left.

Also, do not ever under any circumstances refer to magazines as clips. :) There is a difference, even though they seem to be interchangeable terms now.


44 posted on 01/13/2013 9:37:43 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: BCR #226; Aria

Yeah, don’t let some jerk steer the diminutive little lady....

It’s arrogant, mysoginistic and very dangerous.

A woman can easily handle .40 and .45 handguns. You just need an empathetic ear and someone knowledgeable and competent.

I’m a guy, grew up around guns...all of them but, a few years back I wanted to get back into shooting for sport and realizing there exists among us those who mean to disarm me and enable the guy who comes after him to become a tyrant.

I went to a range and had my mind set on a particular arm. Well, I ran into a LEO who convinced me to look at Kimber.

He had done some things to test the Kimber TacII for reliability and dependability such as shoot every manufactuerer and junk surplus ammo through it before cleaning it.

He shot over 4,000 rounds through it before he cleaned it. That was three months of weekends and then he set it aside for another month, as he had acquired another weapon and found himself interested in it.

A month later he picked the Kimber up and realized how filthy it was. He did not want spend a lot of time cleaning it so he took it to the range and cold fired it cleaning the bore and scraping off the goo from the slide. Still, he dissambled the gun afterwards and dropped the parts, save grips into a pan of Break Free, an extremely strong solvent.

He reassembled the gun with full confidence that no matter what he could count on his arm performing should his depend on it and under any circumstance including dropping a gun into mud and depending on it to fire despite being fouled, as most other guns would be.

I bought one and replicated the test. Hated to do that to a gun but, had know.

I had one failure in 3,000. It squibed and was easily solved.

I have two Kimbers in .45. Their mags carry .45 Jacketed Hollow Points, 230 grain by Hornady and I have 19 mags to back them up.

You won’t know how many bullets will be required to save your life or that of your loved ones untill it’s over.

I would feel stupid if I needed to fire 100 rounds but, I’d feel stupid because I would be alive.


45 posted on 01/13/2013 9:42:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Aria
There's much good advice on the thread (particularly about going to local gun-ranges.) But, I'd like to add a bit more...

It takes lots of time and practice to be good with any gun, and paying to go to local indoor ranges can add up quickly. Find some targets, several boxes of ammo, and head for the hills.

It's fun and in many ways a more pleasant way to sharpen your skill. Ask around for tips on where to go. Take some friends, food and drinks, and have a ball!!

46 posted on 01/13/2013 9:42:10 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: rusty schucklefurd
There is no safety, you don’t have to pull back the bolt and no clips are involved.

Bolt? Clip? On a pistol?

Shoot much?

47 posted on 01/13/2013 9:44:42 PM PST by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: mylife

“...never reveal a gun unless you intend to use it.”

Meaning it’s better to not reveal your gun and be found raped and strangled to death with your pantyhose than to be found explaining how you bluffed your way out of a situation by brandishing it.


48 posted on 01/13/2013 9:45:29 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Aria

Shotgun, preferrably a pump or at least a double barrel.
Work out your muscles with it.


49 posted on 01/13/2013 9:45:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jespasinthru

You can get detachable magazine kits for them.


50 posted on 01/13/2013 9:46:10 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: KrisKrinkle

No.
Meaning if you reveal it you had better be prepared to use it.
Its not for frightening.

Like it or not, as soon as you pull a gun the bad guy will fight for his life too.
Do not hesitate.
Do not fool around.
If you are in fear for your life, SHOOT!


51 posted on 01/13/2013 9:54:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BCR #226; Aria

Very imoortant!!!!

You must spend money on a competent trainor. You need to made aware of stances and gripping your arm, breathing and focus.

Tbey will help you understand the reasons for each grip and stance.

They should be able to help you discover which ones you prefer and then run you through scenarios so you understand what grips and stance feel like in various conditions.

I could go into a variety if subjects but, you need training to save your life.

Just because you have a weapon does not mean you know how to use it.

You need to understand basic principles and a good trainer will get into the psychology of shooting.

You need to commit to life saving but, need to be aware of the emotional consequence.

I am comitted to protecting my life and those I love and pray I never have to. But, having been in many fights when younger I accept the world is populated by bullies, thugs, kuhrayzees and outright evil.

I hope never to cross their path and when possible but when given no choice to act on them “NOW!”.

Spend the money on training. It will give you confidence and knowledge.

Then shoot your gun whenever possible at a range.


52 posted on 01/13/2013 9:56:25 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: shibumi

Hahaha! Now that is funny right there.


53 posted on 01/13/2013 9:59:54 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: KrisKrinkle; Robert357

Sorry dude, you’re wrong on that one. People who buy a firearm with the mental outlook that they won’t use it to actually kill someone if the need arises are a danger to themselves and others.

Like Robert357 (pinged for courtesy) said earlier, you want to be well versed in your states lethal force/self defense law.


54 posted on 01/13/2013 10:02:07 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Thorliveshere

I liked the way the instructor dropped the mag before it was empty and just as I was thinking “there is still one in the pipe” he cleared it and caught the round in his hand.

God job and damn funny mockery.


55 posted on 01/13/2013 10:04:32 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KrisKrinkle

You’re saying it’s better to quit, lay down and be killed or otherwise harmed rather than try and bluff your way out and stay alive.

That may be ok for you but it doesn’t mean it’s ok for everyone.

And I keep reading elsewhere than on this thread that most of the time a gun is drawn in self defense it’s not fired—the bad guy changes his plans.

I’m not saying that bluffing is always the right thing to do, I just disagree that it is never an option.


56 posted on 01/13/2013 10:06:28 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Axenolith

And you need to know that even if justified you WILL go before a Grand Jury.
You need to do this with your eyes wide open.


57 posted on 01/13/2013 10:06:32 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Aria

You have received advice on this thread.
You will learn much from the NRA folks and CHL classes.

http://girlsguidetoguns.com/2011/08/18/massad-ayoob-on-women-and-guns/


58 posted on 01/13/2013 10:09:37 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Dear Kris:

That is absolutely NOT what I was saying.

The decision to arm yourself with deadly force should not be entered into lightly and one should fully understand what one is doing.

59 posted on 01/13/2013 10:15:24 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: ProfoundMan

re: “Bolt? Clip? On a pistol? Shoot much?”

Obviously not pistols. Just shotguns and rifles. Sorry about that - I guess it is the “slide” and the “magazine”. I stand in the corner of shame until I learn the proper terminology.


60 posted on 01/13/2013 10:15:38 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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