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“Men are tired,” Venker wrote. “Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.”

What? Young men aren't rushing to marry the Sandra Flukes of this world? I'm shocked!/sarc

1 posted on 01/11/2013 5:40:07 PM PST by ReformationFan
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Married or not.....and i am to just one fine chick many years

I got to have a warm nubile woman to share my bed.....everything else in life is a distant second place to punani and all that physical and granted some emotional warmth too

Sure women are pretty wacky today but you gotta show them what they need

They may not even know it yet

God bless southern girls

Feminism or not ...life without a woman is barely worth having

I lived in a womanless environment....it was brutal

I cant imagine doing it voluntarily


260 posted on 01/11/2013 11:56:57 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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I’ve been thinking about this for the last 12 hours or so. In my family, no one got divorced, but I did have a cousin who called off the engagement. Everyone stayed together, I had great aunts and uncles who were together for 60 plus years until death parted them.

I figured I’d have that kind of marriage too, maybe not 60 years, since most of the women in the family go on for advanced degrees- but still - married by 30, would give you an estimated 30-40 plus years which isn’t bad.

I always got “you’re too nice”. “you’re too smart”, “you’re the type of girl I would bring home to mom and I just want to play the field right now”. I never had problem finding dates- it was getting a second or third date. I never put out- maybe that was a problem.

When I finally met someone I found out he stayed with me because I was making a lot more than he was and he liked that, he liked the fact that my job took me traveling to Europe several times a year and he could piggy back along. A year or so into the marriage my kidneys failed and he couldn’t deal with the fact I was sick, I was unable to work and he had to play nursemaid. (Didn’t the vows say in sickness and health?). He left big time, and I had the marriage annulled.

The hopeless romantic in me hopes I will find someone but I’ve taken myself off the market for good. I would rather have a friend(s) I don’t care if it’s male or female. Because of the health issues I am pretty much house bound but maybe someday I can get back there and do things again and meet people in the real world. If I meet a guy, that would be fine, but I’ll never marry again. The only requirements, he must have a kind heart, and he must like/hell, he must love cats.

My grandmother told me when I was 12 there was a lid for every pot. She and grandpa were so very happy. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me that people up until say, the 60s or 70s had it easier in the love department than today. Maybe because times were simpler.

I envy them.

Thank you for this thread.


266 posted on 01/12/2013 5:10:36 AM PST by Gefn ("I am waiting for a rebirth of wonder")
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To ALL:

I should have edited better- need coffee-

I wrote “ If I meet a guy, that would be fine, but I’ll never marry again. The only requirements, he must have a kind heart, and he must like/hell, he must love cats.”

I meant to put in between these sentences- if I ever do date again, my only requirements are - he must have a kind heart and love cats.

I apologize for any confusion and blame it on lack of coffee first thing in the am.


268 posted on 01/12/2013 5:21:10 AM PST by Gefn ("I am waiting for a rebirth of wonder")
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What? Young men aren't rushing to marry the Sandra Flukes of this world?

Nope, they sure aren't. They know the Sandra Fluke's of the world are only good for one thing, and that's why the b*tch wants us to pay for her birth control!

278 posted on 01/12/2013 6:33:36 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Hate to say this as a guy but both the boys and the girls have failed to thrive. Neither have matured into adults. ‘Parents’ have failed.


287 posted on 01/12/2013 7:07:11 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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I see this as a "man" problem and not a woman or "women's lib" problem. In other words, men are to blame for the society we have today.

Women need men to be strong, assertive, financially responsible and always, always in control. Women need men to be go-getters and good, dependable providers. However, there are too many men out there that have become sissified. I don't mean in the women's clothes wearing sense of the word but sissified mentally.

Way too many men out there are slackers, they lack ambition, work ethic, discipline. They act like overgrown adolescents. Whenever I see a man sitting at home playing a child's video game on the living room couch in his sweatpants, I want to smack him upside the head and knock some sense into him. If you are a man over 21 and you are still living at home with your parents (and you are not attending university) than you are a loser who will get no respect from the ladies. If you are one of those, get off your butt and make a life for yourself - or you do not deserve a good woman.

Another thing I find pathetic about most of my fellow men is their "helplessness" with things domestic. Any man worth his salt should be able to sew a button, run a load of laundry, cook a decent meal and make a bed. Any man who relies on his mother or woman to do these tasks for him is a wimp. There is nothing "manly" about not knowing how to take care of yourself when the woman isn't around and even when the woman is around, it's nice to give her a break and do those chores for her from time to time.

Way too many men dress like slobs in public. Next time you go to a nice restaurant, look around you. You will see grown men taking their woman to dinner dressed in hockey jerseys, sneakers, ill-fitting jeans, etc. Men should never wear sneakers unless they are actually running or playing basketball or something - it makes them look like overgrown kids. When men go someplace nice with their woman, they should dress up because that will encourage your woman to do so as well and we all like our women to dress well for us in public.

I can go on and on but I'm tired of seeing women take the blame for our screwed-up society. It is the men that have let the women down. Women are starved for real men out there and there are tons of great women out there who are available. All you have to do is be a man and act like a man to get one. I know, I've been fighting them off for 20 years (I'm already married).

292 posted on 01/12/2013 8:09:58 AM PST by SamAdams76
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I was on eHarmony for a while, but unfortunately they use educational level as a primary matching ctiterion. The result? Profile after profile of highly educated, ultra-liberal women, usually teachers. I gave up. There is an upside, though: I’m 43, have zero debt, earn six figures, and am about to buy a house—for *cash*.


316 posted on 01/12/2013 11:37:29 AM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?”

Out banging the sluts that give it up on the 1st date? Just a guess.

Now I'll get to the comments.

319 posted on 01/12/2013 12:18:29 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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Fashions change. Misandry is in vogue this century.


324 posted on 01/12/2013 12:46:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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329 posted on 01/12/2013 1:21:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Women don’t want to get married until their late 30s now and too often would rather raise prized (and dressed) pets than children.


343 posted on 01/12/2013 3:02:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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Helen Effing Reddy!

(Who gets the reference, gets the reference. Who doesn't, doesn't.)

352 posted on 01/12/2013 7:29:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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One thing missing in a lot of today’s world is moral hazard. When banks can sell bad mortgages to a federal agency, what is to lose for the bank? It’s not like the day when the banker was risking loaning his neighbors money to another neighbor to buy a house.

An issue with marriage today IMO is that there is little moral hazard for the woman. Women marry, get tired of whatever and are virtually guaranteed half the assets and the kids if they choose. There is considerably more moral hazard in it for for most bread winner men; half the assets, house, kids, alimony, child support, etc. Marriage is a two person partnership that can be dissolved with one vote and a known loser.


375 posted on 01/14/2013 8:07:12 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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From the review of book titled "Love in the Time of Algorithms" about Internet dating and such in today's WSJ (Damn, I hate online newspapers! You can't find anything in them that you can look up easily in paper editions by turning a page.) (I hope that Fed prosecutor Carmen Ortiz ("wize latina") doesn't come after me now for violating the Affordable Copyright Act, now that her last criminal Mr Swartz has checked out and she's looking for a suitable target)

There is also much worse. The low point in Mr. Slater's research is a trip he makes to Colombia with a group of American men, members of a dating site called Amo Latina. For $1,595 a head, the men travel to Medellín, attend two "socials" where there are 20 women for each man, and have the services of concierges and translators to help them with their dates. Each man hopes to choose one mate at the end of the trip.

The men who go on this trip are profoundly embittered. "American women took me to the cleaners," a 52-year-old window installer from Florida tells Mr. Slater. A 56-year-old doctor from California says: "Women in the States are confused. They don't know if they want to be the man or the woman. I sure as hell don't want to be the woman." A 30-year-old nurse from Michigan says: "I can't find a woman at home. Yet thanks to the Internet I can develop a reputation as a player in a foreign city where I don't speak the language." We see these men by turns despising and fawning over the Colombian women. One minute they are the swaggering gringos flaunting their American-sized wallets, the next flailing to make a date in a foreign language. They talk of love, but the word feels bullet-ridden by their cynicism.


389 posted on 01/29/2013 10:30:51 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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