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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; greeneyes

Kart, you had that thread about bartering and I posted an article, but I started that with a warning of engaging in bartering. The man who wrote the article for this present thread about Argentina said this:

“You’ll start bartering for a living like thousands did in Argentina. When you realize the problems concerning bartering you’ll try making money to survive on whatever new currency replaces the US dollar.”

Knowing no one can predict how another person will act when the person’s life is draining out due to no water or no food, I won’t trust anyone to be what they were before the collapse came. At this time in my life, I’m more of a solitary person, retired without a workplace to occupy and without a large group of friends/acquaintances and no one knows what I have, so I won’t have a group of people coming around to visit and see what I have and want some of it.

I expect other Freepers do have a large group of people who will check on them or come see them, or contact them in some way and that could be a problem for these Freepers.

I believe this country is dying - it will either continue to die slowly or there will be a final flap of butterfly wings that will cause a sudden collapse in the monetary system or electric grid which brings the same thing, and then it’s chaos and panic and we are plunged into the dark ages of long ago.

I think if people don’t have what they need to survive for a long period, maybe that is a year but it could be much longer, they will die. We don’t know how long it would take for some semblance of order to come about. This man’s report about Argentina says it still isn’t happening there, chaos still rules after a number of years.

The future is uncertain but our preparations can have goals we meet and continue to set goals. If we do nothing, we leave our future to chance and that is not an option for many of us. I have insurance for my house, my car, my life, medical needs, and I have “survival” insurance.

Kart, I know you have survival insurance, and we both hope many others get it.


22 posted on 01/03/2013 6:03:52 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

You are right. This is why my preps go beyond just stocking piling necessities. I hesitate to use the word sustainable, because of the Globalist use of the term.

However,for example, if I have flour or wheat to last for a year or two, logic asks then what? When it is gone how will we sustain ourselves? Can we be self sufficient?

We know we can grow wheat, because we have been growing winter wheat for the last few winters. We have sufficient land to be able to produce enough for our family, and have had some success with this.

A stock pile of food is great for short term, but should we go into a dark period that lasts a decade or more, we should be giving some thought to how we will do things for the long term too.

I really would like to be totally self sufficient, so I am learining new things daily, and filing how to info in my notebook, and constantly experimenting to see what I can do.


35 posted on 01/03/2013 9:21:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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