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"What exactly is the LeMay Doctrine? .. Kozak: Simply put, a nation should think long and hard before it makes the fateful decision to go to war. But if all other diplomatic means have failed and there is no other alternative, then that nation should use every weapon in its arsenal to win the war as quickly as possible. And here’s the kicker: if it isn’t willing to do this, then it should not go to war in the first place. Prolonged conflicts help no one and wind up producing more casualties in the end. Think how the United States would have fought its wars differently since WWII … or not at all … if it had used LeMay’s doctrine...."
1 posted on 12/25/2012 2:03:52 PM PST by virgil283
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Bump.


2 posted on 12/25/2012 2:05:05 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: virgil283

for a fact...the LeMay and Goldwater stories are 1000 percent true as well


3 posted on 12/25/2012 2:16:15 PM PST by advertising guy (and as far as the Cookie Monster, was it really cookies ?)
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To: virgil283

bttt


4 posted on 12/25/2012 2:17:33 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: virgil283

Bump!


5 posted on 12/25/2012 2:19:36 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: virgil283

Developer of the Strategic Air Command, Gen. Curtis LeMay, provided many enjoyable (if not apocryphal) quotes, such as at a Senate hearing when asked why, with already enough nuclear bombs to reduce the Soviet Union to cinders, he still wanted more nuclear weapons, LeMay replied, “I want to see the cinders dance.”


6 posted on 12/25/2012 2:22:38 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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"These [atomic] bombs brought into the world not only their own speed and extent of desolation. They brought a strange pervading fear which does not seem to have affected mankind previously, from any other source. This unmitigated terror has no justice, no basis in fact. Nothing new about death, nothing new about deaths caused militarily. We scorched and boiled and baked to death more people in Tokyo on that night of March 9-10 than went up in vapor at Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined." -- Mission with LeMay, Curtis E. LeMay, MacKinlay Kantor, Doubleday, 1965, p. 387.
7 posted on 12/25/2012 2:28:49 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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FYI.


8 posted on 12/25/2012 2:29:29 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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“I do not wish to have it pointed out to me by some “whiz kid” at this late stage of the game, that World War II was a colossal mistake , an international misunderstanding for which the United States was proportionately responsible. World War II was nothing of the kind. It was an event wherein the military giants of those several Axis states decided that they could get away with an incredible land grab, a nation grab, a super-Napoleonic defacement of a world-sized map. They did this with the enthusiasm of their nationals behind them. In minor dissension may have sounded the voices of a few ardent patriots and heroic philosophers; but those were not the majority. An horrific chorus shouted, ‘Duce!’, or ‘Banzai!’ or ‘Heil Hitler!’ Eventually, because of the sacrifices endured by our men and the entire populations of Allied countries, the enemy went down to defeat. Enemy cities were pulverized or fried to a crisp. It was something they asked for and something they got. In reverse fashion, if we keep listening to the gospel of apology and equivocation which all too many politicians and savants are preaching today in the United States, we will be asking for the same thing. And in time, may achieve it. Like witch doctors, defense intellectuals have created jargon which tends to becloud understanding. I submit that military strategy and subsequent national defense policies are understandable if clearly presented. Moreover, the average citizen must be familiar with these subjects, because, through his franchise, he makes the most fundamental and far-reaching defense decisions.”

General Curtis LeMay – 1965


9 posted on 12/25/2012 2:30:48 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: virgil283

Lemay understood good and evil, and acted accordingly.


10 posted on 12/25/2012 2:31:25 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: virgil283

Read his biography. It was great.


11 posted on 12/25/2012 2:34:03 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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favorite target for journalists beginning in the 1960s

all American military personnel were also targets of

the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats who were celebrated in the establishment MSM as the most intelligent generation ever!. They are now arguably that very establishment that praised them and they hold themselves and their ideological issue in even higher regard.

As pillars of the Establishment today they can now direct the MSM to attack whomever they please in addition to the American military.. rarely necessary of course because the MSM are also 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and ideological issue of same.

12 posted on 12/25/2012 2:34:36 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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General Maxwell Taylor had served as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and in 1965 he became a special adviser to President Lyndon B. Johnson. In that position I believe he pretty much held sway over everything including the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Among them was General Curtis LeMay who IIRC smoked cigars and was reported to make sure that he sat next to Taylor in meetings knowing that Taylor hated tobacco smoke.

14 posted on 12/25/2012 2:36:53 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: virgil283

Save for later


15 posted on 12/25/2012 2:48:35 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: virgil283

Thank you for the link a very interesting man..Will check out book..


17 posted on 12/25/2012 2:57:54 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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LeMay was a tangible threat to the Soviet Union, which had long been very scared of America’s bomber fleet, because from the end of WWII to about the mid-1960s, nuclear missiles were just not good enough, or common enough, to rely on.

So the Soviets told their American traitors to destroy LeMay with character assassination.


18 posted on 12/25/2012 3:04:32 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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When I was in the Air Force in the late 1970's, we didn't have a well-cultivated tradition of history and heroes like the Army, Navy and especially the Marines. The legacy of General LeMay was the rare exception to that. The maverick creator of the Strategic Air Command was someone that had legendary status. Proud to say I served my time as a "SAC trained killer".


22 posted on 12/25/2012 3:09:32 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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He put his own life at risk insisting on flying the lead bomber on every dangerous mission over Europe.

This is not quite true. He certainly did lead dangerous missions, including the August, 1943 raid to Regensburg. But, he did not lead all. Group commanders in the 8th Air Force took their turn as Command Pilot leading the group or air division on specific missions. They shared this duty with the other senior officers in the Group. LeMay may have picked the toughest missions for himself, but he did what his fellow group commanders were doing. He led a few missions after being promoted to Brigadier General and becoming CG of the 3d Air Division. But, at some point, he was grounded because of his knowledge of the compromised Enigma codes. This restriction applied to all who had such knowledge as the Allies could not risk their falling into enemy hands.

The restriction continued when LeMay went to the 30th AF, although he made have sneaked on a few missions. LeMay was courageous, no doubt, but so were countless other general officers. When LeMay began his combat duty in 1943, the Navy had lost several admirals in surface actions in the South Pacific. Three Army generals had been wounded in fierce combat at Buna in New Guinea. In World War II, generals who led from the front were commonplace.

23 posted on 12/25/2012 3:11:21 PM PST by centurion316
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To: virgil283

Thanks for putting this one up. I never thought much about LeMay. Now I must find a good biography and some more.


24 posted on 12/25/2012 3:12:40 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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While the Libs may vilify him for his war time strategy, and make movies about Jack D Ripper, it was LeMay’s vice President position on George Wallace’s Presidential bid in 1968 that made them really foam at the mouth.


25 posted on 12/25/2012 3:13:34 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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LeMay disgraced himself in 1968 by running as the VP candidate of racist George Wallace.


29 posted on 12/25/2012 3:38:21 PM PST by iowamark
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