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To: discostu
Part of the problem with Tebow’s numbers is how low everything is. 271 attempts in 11 games. That’s not an NFL QB stat. And then 54% of them are either not caught or caught by the wrong guy. That’s just bad.

It's basically a Michael Vick stat... another southpaw. http://www.nfl.com/player/michaelvick/2504531/careerstats

Southpaw has nothing to do with it. Plenty of left handed QBs have plenty of success.

I don't believe that is an accurate statement. Very few lefty quarterbacks have made it in the NFL. Apparently, in the entire history of the NFL, there have only been 40 left handed QBs http://greatsportsnamehalloffame.blogspot.com/2009/07/there-have-been-only-32-left-handed.html and only one of them, Steve Young had a pass completion percentage above 60%. http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~maxymuk/home/passing/qblh.html Steve Young is also the only left handed QB to be inducted into the Pro Hall of Fame. http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/release.aspx?release_id=1413.

There’s one major difference between Testaverde and Tebow: this discussion. Vinnie didn’t have a big crowd of worshipers making life for his coaches bad every time he was on the bench. Because Tebow has all these followers that ignore his atrocious stats he be played even though he stinks he’s an instant quarterback controversy.

Ultimately, they are all entertainers and are compensated based on their entertainment value. If for whatever reason they can fill seats and sell licensed goods, teams will find a spot for them. Whatever Denver paid Tebow was more than recovered in sold out stadiums and sales of licensed goods. Tebow was a good investment for the Broncos. Has that happened with the Jets? I tend to doubt it. Might it happen with the Jaguars? Yes, at least for one season.

I know exactly why he has happy feet: he doesn’t know where the open man is and he wants to run.

That's because his whole style is run-first like Vick. I think it unrealistic to try and turn him into a Steve Young.

We know whether he’s been developing. He hasn’t. If he had he’d be the starter for the Jets.

That's an assumption but I don't think it safe to call it a fact. What I've heard is Jets management/coaches believed by having Tebow, opponents would be forced to spend practice resources preparing for the wildcat. Such strategy could only work if the Jets expended little of their own resources with wildcat preparation. That basically meant Tebow would be practicing with 3rd stringers. The strategy may have had some merit early in the season as opponents did put n extra effort preparing for a range of wildcat plays but they soon realized it made no sense preparing for scenarios the Jets starters weren't practicing for.

65 posted on 12/22/2012 2:16:50 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

And Michael Vick has had 1 season where he was actually a good QB, the rest of the time he’s been an exciting runner that throws inaccurately sometimes. And Vick’s shortcomings as a QB are about to get the league’s longest tenured coach fired.

Lefties are a minority of people. But there are still plenty of left handed QBs that are good. Ken Stabler, Jim Zorn, you can be good and not get in the HOF.

They’re entertainers, but QB controversies are NOT entertaining, and they cost coaches their jobs. Tebow was a TERRIBLE investment for the Broncos. There’s a reason why the coachthat picked him got fired. He created an instant QB controversy, and in game he stank, they traded 3 other picks to get a guy in the first round everybody though would stay on the board until the 3rd round. Had the defense not gotten it together they’d have lost. Had the defense gotten it together earlier Orton would have kept his job. Had there not been the crowds demanding Tebow Orton would have kept his job until the defense got it together. They over reached and over paid for him. When you trade away 3 picks to get somebody in the first round and they’re only on your team for 2 years that’s a BAD pick.

And a QB whose style is run first is a runningback that throws. He is NOT a good QB. QBs are paid to THROW the ball first, second and third. And accurately. Tebow does none of the above.

There’s no assumption in it at all. The starting QB of the Jets stinks. They know that, they’ve known it for a while. Stinks enough they traded for Tebow last year AND drafted somebody the year before. This is a starting QB job that’s up for grabs. Tebow is there, in practice, and yet they just passed him over to have a 7th round draft pick start. They’re paying Tebow 11 million dollars (remember this is a hard cap league, 11 million matters), and they’ve let him throw 8 passes all year. He hasn’t progressed. They brought in the wildcat coach to be offensive coordinator, and they largely don’t run it. The Niners ran it AGAINST them, and won 34-0.

Why weren’t they practicing the wildcat? They had the wildcat coach and a wildcat QB and yet they didn’t practice it. It’s simply not plausible that they put that many resources into having a wildcat offense and then just never found the time to practice it. What’s plausible is they DID practice it, and didn’t like the results, that being Tebow continuing to only complete 46% of his passes. So they dumped it. And now they’re dumping him, because he didn’t progress.


66 posted on 12/22/2012 2:49:32 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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