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And Michael Vick has had 1 season where he was actually a good QB, the rest of the time he’s been an exciting runner that throws inaccurately sometimes. And Vick’s shortcomings as a QB are about to get the league’s longest tenured coach fired.

Lefties are a minority of people. But there are still plenty of left handed QBs that are good. Ken Stabler, Jim Zorn, you can be good and not get in the HOF.

They’re entertainers, but QB controversies are NOT entertaining, and they cost coaches their jobs. Tebow was a TERRIBLE investment for the Broncos. There’s a reason why the coachthat picked him got fired. He created an instant QB controversy, and in game he stank, they traded 3 other picks to get a guy in the first round everybody though would stay on the board until the 3rd round. Had the defense not gotten it together they’d have lost. Had the defense gotten it together earlier Orton would have kept his job. Had there not been the crowds demanding Tebow Orton would have kept his job until the defense got it together. They over reached and over paid for him. When you trade away 3 picks to get somebody in the first round and they’re only on your team for 2 years that’s a BAD pick.

And a QB whose style is run first is a runningback that throws. He is NOT a good QB. QBs are paid to THROW the ball first, second and third. And accurately. Tebow does none of the above.

There’s no assumption in it at all. The starting QB of the Jets stinks. They know that, they’ve known it for a while. Stinks enough they traded for Tebow last year AND drafted somebody the year before. This is a starting QB job that’s up for grabs. Tebow is there, in practice, and yet they just passed him over to have a 7th round draft pick start. They’re paying Tebow 11 million dollars (remember this is a hard cap league, 11 million matters), and they’ve let him throw 8 passes all year. He hasn’t progressed. They brought in the wildcat coach to be offensive coordinator, and they largely don’t run it. The Niners ran it AGAINST them, and won 34-0.

Why weren’t they practicing the wildcat? They had the wildcat coach and a wildcat QB and yet they didn’t practice it. It’s simply not plausible that they put that many resources into having a wildcat offense and then just never found the time to practice it. What’s plausible is they DID practice it, and didn’t like the results, that being Tebow continuing to only complete 46% of his passes. So they dumped it. And now they’re dumping him, because he didn’t progress.


66 posted on 12/22/2012 2:49:32 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: discostu
And Michael Vick has had 1 season where he was actually a good QB, the rest of the time he’s been an exciting runner that throws inaccurately sometimes. And Vick’s shortcomings as a QB are about to get the league’s longest tenured coach fired.

I have no dispute with what you wrote but for some reason, the only lefty NFL QB to have a completion percentage greater than 60% was Steve Young.

Lefties are a minority of people. But there are still plenty of left handed QBs that are good. Ken Stabler, Jim Zorn, you can be good and not get in the HOF.

Lefties are about ten percent of the population. There are 30 QBs in the Hall of Fame. Only one of them, Steve Young is a leftie.

As I mentioned previously, in the NFLs history, there have only been something like 40 lefty QBs. Presently, there are 32 NFL teams, each with a #1, #2and #3 QB. Thats, 96 QBs. statistically, there should be 8-10 lefty QBs in the league but as best I can tell, there are only 3.

Tebow was a TERRIBLE investment for the Broncos.

In terms of long term term team development, I would agree that he was a mistake. However, the Broncos needed a QB and what other QBs were available in that draft that amounted to anything in the NFL? Sam Bradford went #1 overall but who else was there? I could have told the Panthers that Jimmy Clausen was going to be a second round bust and to stay away from him. The next QB selected was Colt McCoy in the 3rd round and he's done nothing. Mike Kafka went in the 4th round and he's presently an unsigned free agent.

A team needing a QB in the 2010 draft had slim pickings. Despite the Notre Dame PR machine hyping Clausen which suckered the Panthers, it was Bradford and Tebow. The Broncos took a gamble on Tebow that while shakey ultimately worked out by virtue of Manning unexpectedly becoming available.

People may not see Tebow as a good investment by the Broncos from a long term team standpoint but the bean counters at Broncos HQ can quantify his selling out every stadium he played in, increased television revenue as a result of selling out, increased license sales, etc and call him a good investment.

69 posted on 12/22/2012 3:55:01 PM PST by fso301
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