Posted on 12/15/2012 8:54:23 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
It’s time to face the facts. The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution has both outlived it’s usefulness and been perverted far beyond its original intent.
Based on the English Bill of Rights (1869), as the US Supreme Court has said, the English law was to reinstate Protestant‘s rights to have arms after being disarmed by James II. The American cousin was no doubt influenced by both the English law and the conditions of occupation by the British military leading up to the American Revolution.
The intent of the law was to prevent the government from militarily taking over the nation. This was back in the days where the citizenry and the government had access to pretty much the same weaponry.
In 2012, well, let’s just say that your personal arsenal wouldn’t be much of a match for Marines with BDMs or a Naval Carrier Group with fully loaded warplanes.
Additionally, since the Civil War, there really hasn’t been much in the way of a tyrannical government to fear. Sure RWNJs and Tea Partiers like to claim that this (or really any Democratic administration in the last 50 years) are putting the US on the road to tyranny, you and I both know they’re full of s**t.
Today, in Newtown, Connecticut, was the 36th mass school shooting since Columbine in 1996. That’s 2.5x the number of school shootings during the same period in the rest of the world combined. The dots on the map at the top of the page represent every mass shooting incident in the US since 2005.
After every single one, the cycle goes:
1. Shock. 2. Now is not the time 3. Police investigations. 4. Questions about “is now the time?” shouted down 5. Half hearted follow up stories 6. Distraction and everyone forgets.
Lather.
Rinse.
Repeat.
It was said after Columbine.
It was said after Virginia Tech.
It was said after Gabby Giffords, a sitting member of Congress, was shot in the head.
It was said after Aurora.
It’s being said now.
Bob Costas was pilloried by RWNJs for daring to bring up America’s obsessive gun culture during halftime of a Monday Night Football game. They weren’t upset because he was right that Jovan Belcher and Kassandra Perkins would probably still be alive if there weren’t firearms in the house.
No. They were upset that he dared say anything at all.
To some people, it’s never the time to talk about gun violence.
The very first mass shooting incident I can remember was the McDonald’s massacre in San Ysidro, California back in 1984.
A man named James Huberty walked into a McDonald’s and opened fire, killing 21 people (including 5 children) and wounding 19 others. It would become a scene, and a story, repeated far too often over the next 28 years.
You see, Huberty was a survivalist who:
“…saw signs of what he thought was growing trouble in America, and believed that government regulations were the cause of business failures, including his own. He believed that international bankers were purposefully manipulating the Federal Reserve System and bankrupting the nation. Convinced that Soviet aggression was everywhere, he believed that the breakdown of society was near, perhaps through economic collapse or nuclear war. He committed himself to prepare to survive this coming collapse and, while in Canton, provisioned his house with thousands of dollars of non-perishable food and six guns that he intended to use to defend his home during what he believed was the coming chaos.”
Sound familiar?
That’s common talk nowadays on Right Wing Nut Job radio and the underlying theme of just about every NRA political flyer.
The power and money of the National Rifle Association have managed to pervert the 2nd Amendment into essentially a firearms free-for-all, where any regulation is vigorously opposed. They whip up their lemmings into a frenzy of fear that some all powerful government entity, national or international, is going to go door to door confiscating all their firearms.
This has led to toothless gun laws with meaningless penalties and a firearm homicide rate per 100,000 people that is higher than the West Bank and Gaza and nearly 4 times higher than the next industrialized nation.
Therefore it is time.
It is time to repeal the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and start over.
It is time for strict licensing with mandatory training classes, liability insurance and licenses that must be renewed on regular basis.
It is time for firearm registration with 14 day waiting periods and thorough background checks.
It is time to limit, as the UK does, the maximum caliber of weapons the public can own along with the firearm’s capacity.
It is time, as Norway does, to require the purchaser to have a valid reason to own a gun.
To own a gun in Norway, one must document a use for the gun. By far the most common grounds for civilian ownership are hunting and sports shooting, in that order. Other needs can include special guard duties or self defence, but the first is rare unless the person shows identification confirming that he or she is a trained guard or member of a law-enforcement agency and the second is practically never accepted as a reason for gun ownership.
It is time, as in Norway, for mandatory gun safes and to allow law enforcement to inspect homes for compliance.
The proper response to a tragedy, like the one today, is not to do nothing, but to work and put laws in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.
I will be perfectly honest… I’m done hearing the pro-gun arguments.
I’m done hearing the “responsible gun owner” argument. The weapons used in Columbine, Aurora, Kansas City, Clackamas, and Newtown were all legally purchased.
I’m done hearing the ridiculous comparisons to swimming pools and car accident fatalities.
I’m done hearing the “if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns” mindless pablum.
20 children, all between the ages of 5 and 10, were killed today in one school, in one city, with legally purchased firearms in the United States.
The time to talk about gun violence was yesterday, is today, and will be tomorrow.
Saying it isn’t time and doing nothing means those 20 children will have died in vain.
http://homebrewedtheology.com/its-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment.php - original article, where comments can also be added in response
what an odd coincidence! We live on a lake also, and it’s always murky cuz it’s a “run of the river lake” (dams at north and south ends). But it’s great for crappie and bass and catfish!
Yeah, the bottom of the lake is all muck fer sure. I hate swimming in it cuz I can’t see thru the water and when I have touched the bottom it’s just gross. Even around our boathouse it’s murky, and I hate cleaning around the pilings!
We’ve lost anchors, knives, expensive sunglasses, and a cooler in the lake. So, yeah, if they ever dry up the lake it will be amazing what they find! :)
Amending the Constitution is simple & easy, Homejob.
Especially getting thirty-eight state assemblies to ratify a proposed amendment. A breeze..........
;^)
Some influence is certainly not the same laws. The American Revolution was to throw off the yoke of English law and make a new country with its OWN distinct laws. We see the Libtard doesn't cite the founders closer to the adoption of the Bill of Rights to the US Constitution.
"Alexander Hamilton explained in 1788:
If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude[,] that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens"
The intent of the law was to prevent the government from militarily taking over the nation. This was back in the days where the citizenry and the government had access to pretty much the same weaponry.
Not quite correct libtard. That's why down through history from muskets to AR platforms have been available to the public. The intent of the 2nd Amendment was and still is a last resort against dictatorial tyranny regardless which instruments is used, military or civilian brown shirts, to illegally oppress and seize total power.
Note that this statement is precisely opposite to the facts. Prior to the Civil War, there really wasn't much in the way of tyrannical Government--disagreements to be sure, but very little overreaching by the Federal Government. After the Civil War, we have seen an ever greater Federal encroachment into areas never given to the Feds in the Constitution.
Of course the advocates of tyranny never admit to being advocates of tyranny. Lenin, Trotsky, Hitler & Castro were just trying to help their respective victims realize their potential, to hear their propagandists explain it all.
William Flax
The fact that stuck out for me in the reporting was that the father had divorced the mother in 2008 and was “living nearby in a community of multi-million dollar homes with his new wife.” That’s cold.
If ever a boy needed a father in the home, it was a highly intelligent, autistic boy. Didn’t he understand how disruptive his actions would be for an already troubled child? Couldn’t he at least have stayed until the kid was grown and settled in some kind of job or halfway house?
I have a son-in-law that is a Marine. He and all of the Marines I’ve met would take out Obama before they fired on citizens. This you can count on.
This could be the wake-up call for the Right. If the libs try to abolish the 2nd amendment, 2014 will make 2010 pale in comparison.
The intent of the law was to prevent the government from militarily taking over the nation.
If you think tyranny by your own government is impossible, you're shockingly naive. Read history sometime. Really read it - it's not just a class you cut in HS, it has real value at teaching us lessons about human nature.
In 2012, well, let’s just say that your personal arsenal wouldn’t be much of a match for Marines with BDMs or a Naval Carrier Group with fully loaded warplanes.
Please explain Vietnam, the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, etc. How well did these kind of engagements work out for the big high-tech armies?
Additionally, since the Civil War, there really hasn’t been much in the way of a tyrannical government to fear.
How many czars does obama have now? How many executive orders has he issued. How much government by fiat? If you don't fear what the government is becoming under obama you are a fool.
Sure RWNJs and Tea Partiers like to claim that this (or really any Democratic administration in the last 50 years) are putting the US on the road to tyranny, you and I both know they’re full of s**t.
When you stop drinking the kool-aid and come to your senses I may, may accept your apology.
Wrong.
Liberals won’t fight this head-on. They don’t need to. They will patiently achieve it via death by a 1000 cuts. Same way they will institute communism.
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Someone help me here. Does the Constitution specifically say that the Government is entitled to have guns? Can Bloomberg explain why thee are so many guns in the government at every level?
Chain link fence can probably be produced in sufficient quantity to surround those areas and you only need 8 ft heights to keep the majority of folks inside.
Then, do a little house to house to take away their guns ~ and that'll eliminate virtually all the mass murders, as well as drop the armed robbery rate through the basement.
“To own a gun in Norway...” blah, blah, blah.
And yet, in prison in Norway, we have someone who found a way to kill more than 80. With guns. And, adding to the PC insanity, for a maximum sentence of only 20 years, the absolute most any crime can fetch in that country.
The liar who wrote this article knows that once the 2nd Amendment is repealed, none of the following measures he describes will follow. How stupid does he want us to be?
Maybe, for starters, he can explain why any government at any level should have any guns at all.
An article I read earlier stated that the father was devastated by the divorce.
It wasn’t HIS doing.
Typical liberal author. Nothing but mean-spirited name calling and a belligerent response to ban guns. The author’s “Lord and Savior” Obama, mmm mmmm mmmmm, has killed ten times as many people with his illegal gun running to Mexican drug lords than this school just experienced.
I agree there is such a problem with the second amendment. However, it can be fixed with a simple amendment. The constitution needs to allow private ownership of nuclear devices. I'm sure, had the Founding Fathers anticipated nuclear bombs, private ownership of them would have been written into the constitution.
Why is it after someone is fatally stabbed, there are no news stories on the manufacturer of the knife?
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