Posted on 12/13/2012 6:55:07 AM PST by FrogMom
Zombies are the new vampires in the entertainment world, but unlike pop culture vampires, they don’t sparkle, they aren’t sexy and brooding, and you don’t want to turn into one.
The most popular show in cable TV history is The Walking Dead. Dozens, if not hundreds, of zombies are slain in every episode. Head shots are taken with no more compunction than swatting as mosquito before it lands on your arm. An axe to the skull, a pick through an eye socket, blunt objects, arrows, daggers – anything goes. What’s more, it doesn’t matter if the zombie is a man, woman or child – it must be killed immediately as it staggers hungrily towards you.
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But why shouldn’t there be female characters who are bad eggs? They shouldn’t all be written positively just because of their gender.
The bitching I’ve seen from liberal women seems to be because they once showed female characters doing laundry, and occasionally cooking. The idea is that the male characters should be doing that, too. Yeah...let’s take Daryl’s bow away from him and have him whip up dinner. That would benefit the group.
I can’t say I’ve forgotten about white people dying....I don’t quite understand that. I still miss Shane, and then of course there was Dale and Lori. I miss T-Dogg as well. Oscar, I felt, was turning out to be a good member of the group, but we didn’t get to know him.
True, but Merle's a bad apple first and foremost, whether he's redneck or not. And he's proven to be as much of a capable survivor as his brother.
Haven’t seen the show, so I probably really shouldn’t be commenting on it. Though that never seems to stop anybody.
The relevant point is that one doesn’t have the option of taking in that poor, pitiful, hungry, dirty feral child and caring for her.
She’s hungry all right, and it’s for your brains.
We are being pre-conditioned by the entertainment industry to accept death on levels so massive that they make concentration camp videos look like a Disney movie.
Isn't this exactly the same thing that liberals say when they try to ban violent video games? I wonder if the author would say about those.
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
Not at all do they struggle. Where do you see them struggle?
They toy with the idea briefly humoring the older Christian gentleman (even his very existence in the show) in season 3 (I forget his name) that believes they are still human and can be cured.
The notion evaporates quickly with a summary execution of his wife - or was is daughter, the short haired lady's daughter, everyone else in the barn and his subsequent repudiation of his belief.
Andrea’s insisting on waiting for her sister to reanimate before re-killing her. Herschel’s keeping the zombies in the barn insisting that a cure will be found. The Governor’s keeping of his daughter in captivity, and the experimentation he insist take place. Tyreese’s survivor group being unwilling to kill their member who has been bitten. These are all examples of people continuing to think of zombies as their original people. And that’s just an off the top of my head list, many of the characters have come to grips with the reality, but many are still fighting it.
Why would they precondition us for mass killings?
Yea, you have to let the zombie reanimate before you kill it. They weren't struggling with anything.
Herschel’s keeping the zombies in the barn insisting that a cure will be found.
Yea I already made this point. Summary execution and a Christian's repudiation of his belief's. Theatrics and SLAMMING HARD the notion of a struggle along with slamming Christians.
The Governor’s keeping of his daughter in captivity, and the experimentation he insist take place.
I havent seen season 4 yet, and I'm assuming by your use of 'experimentation' but are you trying to say the governor is 'struggling' with something by experimenting on his own damned daughter? how very eugenicist and hardly struggling with anything.
They aren't struggling against a damned thing.
You completely ignored the scenes. Andrea spent hours sitting in front of her dead sister KNOWING that if her brains weren’t blown out she’d reanimate but couldn’t do it until she did. That’s struggling with the situation, until her sister ACTUALLY reanimated she refused to stop thinking of the corpse as her sister, even though she knew re-animations was inevitable.
It wasn’t summary execution of the zombies that changed Herschel’s belief. It was seeing the Sofia (daughter zombie) try to EAT Carol (mother, not zombie). Until he saw the child-parent relationship clearly not applying in the zombie he believed there was a nugget there.
It’s season 3, and no he’s not experimenting on his daughter, he’s having experiments in pre and post death recognition performed on other zombies, and more importantly on living people that then get killed and become zombies. He desperately wants some evidence that even as zombies some portion of their human mind remains, so his daughter can still be his daughter.
It’s struggling, you just don’t want to admit it.
Why would [video games] precondition us for mass killings?
In some games you mow down lots and lots of people -- frequently actual people and not just inhuman enemies. I think this is just fantasy entertainment, but it seems like a perennial complaint that every kids who plays video games is a "Columbine" killer waiting to happen.
I think the words you’re looking for are mouring or maybe lamenting. There aint no struggle killing zombies. I really dont care to debate the point with you any more so have a good one.
No the word is struggling. Andrea refused to put the second kill on her sister until she could look her in the eyes and not see her sister anymore, she even said as much. There’s no other word for that than struggling.
Not bad eggs in the sense that the characters are bad people. I meant bad writing, as if the writers are farmers and instead of bringing fresh eggs to market they let a few rotten ones slip by. The Walking Dead has plenty of perfectly acceptable female characters: Andrea, Maggie, Michonne. Lori was poorly written, in my opinion. This is true across the fictional spectrum, as I said. Writers tend to be male, and though they can write women something inhibits them from writing as many complex, believable, and likeable females as males.
Take the other two big AMC shows, for instance. Breaking Bad has two great male leads, Walter and Jesse. Everybody who likes the show loves them, though with Walt it’s turning into a love to hate him sorta thing. Everyone pretty much hates the wife, Skyler, though it’s hard to say why. Some of the heat characters on Mad Men are women like Peggy and Joan. But everybody hares Betty, though Don is clearly a much worse human being. It’s too much to go into why they’re poorly written, but I think they are.
Most of the Mad Men writer’s room is women. I think most people hate Betty for pushing that “smile even when life sucks or it makes me look bad” line on her daughter. Betty’s a really superficial person (not character, person, the character is actually very well developed), who’s is gaining depth, but the depth she’s gaining is mostly through bitchiness.
You may remember every single white person’s demise. That was just a possible explanation. My point was that almost certainly more whites than minorities have bought it, though minority deaths are the only ones that people argue are part of a pattern.
Like I said, there is a pattern. It is that minorities are more likely to be peripheral characters, and therefore black characters are more likely to die. Think about the scene where the last black guy died, which is purportedly suspiciously close to the entry of a new black guy, as if the forener had to leave to make room for the latter. Who would you have killed, assuming someone had to die to make the danger more real and the escape more exciting? Not Rick or Daryl, certainly. Probably not Glen. Maybe Maggie, but we just went through her and Glen being reunited, and they are the only love story (not counting the governor and Andrea).
I guess they could have brought the white convict instead of the big black one, but it made sense how he ended up going.
Of course you remember Shane, Dale, and Lori. They were major characters. You’d remember Sophia too, for how long they spent looking for her. T-Dogg wasn’t central, though he was a regular. He didn’t have a character arc and only got a few moments here and there. The reason I brought up not noticing the white deaths as much is because, like I said, I can’t even remember how many members of Herschel’s family died.
Then there was Otis, the kid Rick saved after his leg was impaled, the army men killed by the Governor, the two bad dudes killed by Rick in the bar, Sophia’s dad whatever his name was, and so on. They easily outnumber nonwhite deaths. It’s just that there are so many less black castmembers, and only one who has been a main character (Michonne).
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