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To: Tublecane

But why shouldn’t there be female characters who are bad eggs? They shouldn’t all be written positively just because of their gender.

The bitching I’ve seen from liberal women seems to be because they once showed female characters doing laundry, and occasionally cooking. The idea is that the male characters should be doing that, too. Yeah...let’s take Daryl’s bow away from him and have him whip up dinner. That would benefit the group.

I can’t say I’ve forgotten about white people dying....I don’t quite understand that. I still miss Shane, and then of course there was Dale and Lori. I miss T-Dogg as well. Oscar, I felt, was turning out to be a good member of the group, but we didn’t get to know him.


42 posted on 12/13/2012 9:48:36 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Not bad eggs in the sense that the characters are bad people. I meant bad writing, as if the writers are farmers and instead of bringing fresh eggs to market they let a few rotten ones slip by. The Walking Dead has plenty of perfectly acceptable female characters: Andrea, Maggie, Michonne. Lori was poorly written, in my opinion. This is true across the fictional spectrum, as I said. Writers tend to be male, and though they can write women something inhibits them from writing as many complex, believable, and likeable females as males.

Take the other two big AMC shows, for instance. Breaking Bad has two great male leads, Walter and Jesse. Everybody who likes the show loves them, though with Walt it’s turning into a love to hate him sorta thing. Everyone pretty much hates the wife, Skyler, though it’s hard to say why. Some of the heat characters on Mad Men are women like Peggy and Joan. But everybody hares Betty, though Don is clearly a much worse human being. It’s too much to go into why they’re poorly written, but I think they are.


57 posted on 12/13/2012 1:52:29 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: CatherineofAragon

You may remember every single white person’s demise. That was just a possible explanation. My point was that almost certainly more whites than minorities have bought it, though minority deaths are the only ones that people argue are part of a pattern.

Like I said, there is a pattern. It is that minorities are more likely to be peripheral characters, and therefore black characters are more likely to die. Think about the scene where the last black guy died, which is purportedly suspiciously close to the entry of a new black guy, as if the forener had to leave to make room for the latter. Who would you have killed, assuming someone had to die to make the danger more real and the escape more exciting? Not Rick or Daryl, certainly. Probably not Glen. Maybe Maggie, but we just went through her and Glen being reunited, and they are the only love story (not counting the governor and Andrea).

I guess they could have brought the white convict instead of the big black one, but it made sense how he ended up going.


59 posted on 12/13/2012 2:00:45 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: CatherineofAragon

Of course you remember Shane, Dale, and Lori. They were major characters. You’d remember Sophia too, for how long they spent looking for her. T-Dogg wasn’t central, though he was a regular. He didn’t have a character arc and only got a few moments here and there. The reason I brought up not noticing the white deaths as much is because, like I said, I can’t even remember how many members of Herschel’s family died.

Then there was Otis, the kid Rick saved after his leg was impaled, the army men killed by the Governor, the two bad dudes killed by Rick in the bar, Sophia’s dad whatever his name was, and so on. They easily outnumber nonwhite deaths. It’s just that there are so many less black castmembers, and only one who has been a main character (Michonne).


60 posted on 12/13/2012 2:10:18 PM PST by Tublecane
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