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Jenni Rivera plane nose-dived at 600 mph, Mexican official says
abc ^ | Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Posted on 12/12/2012 8:58:28 AM PST by BenLurkin

The small plane carrying Mexican-American music superstar Jenni Rivera plunged in a nose-dive from more than 28,000 feet and hit the ground at more than 600 mph, Mexico's top transportation official said.

Gerardo Ruiz Esparza, Mexico's secretary of communications and transportation, offered a Mexican radio station the first detailed accounts of the moments leading up to the crash that killed Rivera and six other people aboard the Learjet on Sunday.

The plane practically nose-dived," Ruiz told Radio Formulate. "The impact must have been terrible."

Ruiz said the 43-year-old aircraft hit the ground 1.2 miles from where it began falling and that it plummeted at a nearly 45-degree angle. The plane left Monterrey around 3:30 a.m. Sunday after a concert performance. According to authorities, controllers lost contact with the U.S.-registered plane about 10 minutes after takeoff.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: jennirivera; mexicanamericans; ntsb; planecrash
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To: BenLurkin
Just guessing. . . Possible stroke/heart-attack given the age of the pilot, or as it has happened in the past, the pilot's O2 system malfunctions and he passes out (just guessing. . because that is what we do here). Regardless the cause, the pilot slumps over and his body pushes the yoke forward into a dive. The passengers in the back are NOT strapped in and float to the ceiling and never can get a hold of anything to pull themselves to the cockpit and take copntrol. . .or, they too, were passed out due to lack of O2 at altitude and never knew what hit them.

Just guessing (former fighter pilot and USAF mishap investigator, here).

61 posted on 12/12/2012 10:30:55 AM PST by Hulka
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To: DManA

Yes, they were frozen. Plane lost all pressure. Passengers likely passed out before freezing to death. Sad day for golf fans!


62 posted on 12/12/2012 10:38:07 AM PST by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: BenLurkin

Pic. 600 mph??

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/y-CBYKrHpCM/0.jpg


63 posted on 12/12/2012 10:39:23 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

A Chrysler Town & Country...

Just say’in.

I hate to fly.


64 posted on 12/12/2012 10:40:30 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: JoeFromCA

Unless it is due to a medical reason (stroke, heart attack, etc) or a loss of O2, you would not lose consciousness.


65 posted on 12/12/2012 10:43:00 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Responsibility2nd

600 mph is 880 feet per second. 28000 divided by 880 = 32 seconds.


66 posted on 12/12/2012 10:43:26 AM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Hulka

My guess, cabin pressure issue, auto pilot off.
If the old captain vapor locked, the co pilot could take over. So doubt that.
28,000 ft is where things get real quick and dangerous in terms of altitude. Makes sense to me if the cabin didn’t pressurize, then that’s about where everybody would pass out. If auto pilot is on, plane keeps going till fuel runs out, like Payne Stewart. Auto pilot off, quickly out of control. BOOM!
(highly experienced pilot guess)


67 posted on 12/12/2012 10:44:36 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: DManA

All had passed out due to loss of O2. . .the F-16 chase planes could only fly alongside and watch.


68 posted on 12/12/2012 10:44:42 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Eastbound

It was a slow 600mph.


69 posted on 12/12/2012 10:47:54 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: BenLurkin

28K feet? Loss of cabin pressure?


70 posted on 12/12/2012 10:48:38 AM PST by Gamecock ( If we distort the gospel, that distortion will influence and affect everything else that we believe)
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To: PilotDave

Good guess.

We great minds think alike. . .


71 posted on 12/12/2012 10:49:22 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Procyon
600 mph, 45 degrees?


72 posted on 12/12/2012 10:50:30 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

If that’s a pic of this accident it is not as described. That plane went in most likely in a spin. Upright, spinning down like a playing card. Had it nose dived in from on high there would be very little recognizable as an airplane. Doesn’t change my guess. Loss of cabin pressure, (or cabin failed to pressurize) led to loss of consciousness due to lack of O2, led to loss of control.


73 posted on 12/12/2012 10:57:40 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Eastbound

More like 45 MPH and 6 degrees.


74 posted on 12/12/2012 10:59:31 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: Responsibility2nd

2 minutes is a long time really.


75 posted on 12/12/2012 11:45:02 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: PilotDave; Eastbound

That bird looks way too small to be the one in question, and way too self-contained to match the description of the crash.

We lost a medflight crew in our area in the past few days and there was a bigger debris field from a chopper that may have been going about 80mph and almost straight in.


76 posted on 12/12/2012 11:53:38 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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To: PilotDave; Eastbound

That bird looks way too small to be the one in question, and way too self-contained to match the description of the crash.

We lost a medflight crew in our area in the past few days and there was a bigger debris field from a chopper that may have been going about 80mph and almost straight in.


77 posted on 12/12/2012 11:53:38 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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To: BenLurkin

78 posted on 12/12/2012 11:54:10 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

Jim Croce.


79 posted on 12/12/2012 11:55:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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To: reg45
Paul McCartney.

80 posted on 12/12/2012 11:57:22 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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