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Bought Car in Ca. Cheaply, Now Mn. Wants More Tax Money!! (Help)
Me | 12/8/2012 | Me

Posted on 12/08/2012 3:50:23 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001

So I saw this deal on a nice car on an Automotive enthusist's website. The car was in California, I am in Minnesota.

I agree to buy the car, fly down 1-way, check out the car and do the following:

- Write up a purchase agreement for the amount (I have a copy).

- Give him a Bank Cashier's Check for the full amount (I have a copy).

- We go to the DMV in Ca., do all the paperwork and I drive home to Mn. (I have a copy).

Now the problem....

Minnesota says the car is much more than what I payed for it... like $5,000 more. (Well, NO KIDDING, it was a deal, that's why I went to that extent to get it!)

Minnesota will not give me the clear title for the car until I pay several hundred more.

Can they really do this?

Isn't there some Commerce Clause?

I payed in full for the transaction and the transaction is complete!!

This was a YEAR ago and I do not want to give them more money if not necessary!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News
KEYWORDS: taxes; vehicletax
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

This sounds like a fairly standard transaction. Each State will have its own book of values for vehicles. This is to prevent buyers from avoiding sales tax by constructing sham transactions at very low purchase prices.


21 posted on 12/08/2012 4:57:21 AM PST by dinodino
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

You screwed up... When buying out of state do not transfer the title until you get to your home state. Get the clear, signed, negotiable title in hand and process it when you get home.


22 posted on 12/08/2012 4:59:27 AM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Yep - they started that crap in Kansas a few years back. Got a ton of flack, mainly because of parents “selling” cars to their kids for $1 - and then being hit with full value sales tax.


23 posted on 12/08/2012 4:59:42 AM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: xtinct

I’ve heard if you move to Ca. with a car you pay their tax on your already owned vehicle. (not sure it was true, sounds close to it now with this)


24 posted on 12/08/2012 5:00:04 AM PST by WorksinKOP
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

This thread is useless without pictures.


25 posted on 12/08/2012 5:03:50 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: tacticalogic

LOVE the tag line.


26 posted on 12/08/2012 5:05:16 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: El Laton Caliente

What would make the seller comfortable with release of the car w/o the title transfer?? Can a seller let the car go with some other form proving he no longer owns it, you know to protect himself.. No one selling should just let the car go with just a signed title. ( I’ve been looking for a certain model, I may come across this)???


27 posted on 12/08/2012 5:05:44 AM PST by WorksinKOP
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To: WorksinKOP
I’ve heard if you move to Ca. with a car you pay their tax on your already owned vehicle. (not sure it was true, sounds close to it now with this)

I believe CA charges the difference in sales tax rates from the other state, but only if the car is brought into the state for registration within a certain number of days from the out-of-state purchase date.

Most states also have add a penalty if you don't register the car in their state within a certain number of days from when you bring it into the state. The trick is to remember that the date you "bring" the car into the state must be after the sales-tax add-on, but before the penalty date for late registration.

It can be done. I did it more than once when I purchased a car outside of California, and then moved it into the state.

28 posted on 12/08/2012 5:07:45 AM PST by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: RightField
Some day I will learn to proofread.

"have add" = "add"

29 posted on 12/08/2012 5:10:08 AM PST by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: RightField

Thanks, glad to have seen this post.. Not glad for R/Field.


30 posted on 12/08/2012 5:11:08 AM PST by WorksinKOP
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To: El Laton Caliente

Actually what was done in Ca. all had to be done there.


31 posted on 12/08/2012 5:11:36 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Mark Dayton is the governer here. He lives off trusts that are kept in South Dakota.


32 posted on 12/08/2012 5:14:35 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: WorksinKOP

Meant Livefree not R/field, sorry!


33 posted on 12/08/2012 5:16:15 AM PST by WorksinKOP
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To: Jeff Winston

34 posted on 12/08/2012 5:18:38 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

You want to live in liberal Minnesota? If yes, then you pay. I left, because I’m right.


35 posted on 12/08/2012 5:23:36 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Jeff Winston

You’re so right........

Here’s my baby:

[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/20703ea.jpg[/IMG]


36 posted on 12/08/2012 5:24:11 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Sorry to say that it’s a common practice - keeps parents from selling their grown kids a nice car for $1 and avoiding the taxes...Not saying it’s right, but it’s nothing new.


37 posted on 12/08/2012 5:28:26 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Ran into the same thing buying a vehicle in Ga to be ;licensed in SC. Ga wanted their $750 and SC wanted their $700. The tax law is clear, Ga tax is not collected for a vehicle leaving the state. When I called the state tax office to get the proper procedure, the gov’t drone lectured me on my obligation to pay taxes.

I canceled the sale with the dealer I was working with and paid cash to an individual for the car I wanted, done deal.


38 posted on 12/08/2012 5:29:02 AM PST by wrench
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
This was a YEAR ago and I do not want to give them more money if not necessary!

Ran it for a year with the CA plates?

39 posted on 12/08/2012 5:29:02 AM PST by Roccus
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
Humm, let's try again - here is the car of subject: Guilty?? Image and video hosting by TinyPic
40 posted on 12/08/2012 5:29:28 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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