The Campaign Made No Difference

Dick Morris ^ | November 10, 2012 | Dick Morris

[nathanbedford]

The debates, the conventions, the storm coverage, Benghazi, the state of the economy, jobs data and all other events that affected all fifty states mattered. But the paid media, the in-person campaigning in swing states, and the massive ground game deployed by both sides accomplished nothing. Obama lost all the votes he was going to lose anyway in the swing states and Romney gained of the votes he was going to gain anyway in the swing states.

[Gritty]

Until we can clean up the fraudulent voting processes in this country, we will keep losing.

It's not who votes that counts. It's who counts the votes. - Josef Stalin

[sirchtruth]

We believe in our cause, but reality is smacking us pretty hard.

No, I didn't listen to the podcast, why, because the Reality of FACTS state rinos are losers. I especially won't give any credibility to the track record of Dick Morris! I don't need some twisted demographical BS to understand what happened. This is why republicans are called the STUPID PARTY.

If you don't get reality DICTATES rinos are losers, then you're living in some other world and I'm DONE with this insanity.

[BroJoeK]

Oooops, sorry for the duplicate post.
I'm usually careful enough to prevent that...
Need some coffee...

[randita]

Pass the Dream Act (amnesty) and all you will have is a bunch of people who will vote democrat.

And you will have millions more people swamping social programs that are already running deeply in the red. With an employment rate at 8% (more in states with high Hispanic populations), where are they going to get jobs?

This is lunacy.

[randita]

The simplest explanation is often the best.

People like Obama. They didn’t like Romney (especially after Obama spent all summer demonizing him).

[jjotto]

We know that Obama got 10 million fewer votes and Republicans got 2 million fewer votes than 2008.

Here’s Iowa:

Obama
2008: 828,940
2012: 807,146

McCain
2008: 682,379
2012: 720,323

There was no genius Democrat ground game, in Iowa or nationally.

In most states, unlike Iowa, Republicans didn’t show up. And Iowa is not a ‘swing state’; that’s MSM disinformation.

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

This is more or less the drum I was beating in the run-up to the election.

All of the breathless poll results - this candidate benefited from the debate, that candidate benefited from Sandy, TV ads, Facebook ads. I basically said that all of that analysis made no common sense.

For the people that I come into contact in my daily life, their minds were made up a long time ago. True, there were some voters who switched their votes from 4 years ago but that was not a result of any of the campaigning, debates, ads etc. I think that was due to a realization that they had been taken in in 2008 and that reality had slapped them in the face. But those transformations had already taken place, IMHO.

I think the results *were* baked in very early on and all of the poll swings and results were shiny metal objects to give the commentators and “journalists” something to talk about and to write about.

Throw in a healthy helping of voter fraud and combine that with the sharp red/blue divide that has existed at least as far back as 2000 and you have your American Electorate.

I think here, at least, Morris has it right.

[Happy Rain]

All this silly sophistry about why Romney lost is dangerous—it may convince Republicans to try to correct things through more useless and once again, self defeating, methods.

When a capable conservative has a conservative record AND RUNS AS A CONSERVATIVE he or she wins every time!

The conservative hating GOP-e wants to win with RINOs and the Democrats love and enable their dumass efforts...we need not provide encouragement here to either party.

[gusopol3]

There was a time-tested economic model out of the University of Colorado that had called every election right for 10 cycles, as I remember it. It predicted a Romney win. Elections in this era are being rigged all over the world, most recently Chavez, but Putin and Ahmadinajab come to mind. Every policy of the Democrat party with regard to voting has facilitated a path to a rigged result (although “Landslide Lyndon” proved they could do it on a local basis a very long time ago.) Now we have seen the consequences of melding the criminal with a very sophisticated statistical substrate. If the Republicans are going to go down anyway, and the country with them, then let’s go down kicking and screaming and not as appeasers to what we know is wrong.

[happyhomemaker]

I honestly believe with the breakdown of marriage and the family that the voting population of the country is being controlled by women who by their God given nature are more willing to give up freedom for the promise of security. I am in poor black/hispanic communities a lot and overwhelmingly the women are head of the household and if there are men present they are told what to do. Even in more conservative communities you now have the working mother persuading the husband to vote for the liberal who promises security.

I think Palin did so well because she was able to show that having conservative principles did not mean that you lose security but the GOP decided not to use her. Why do you think Michelle Obama spoke to small audiences of mostly minority women? Because she knew for every woman in the audience their were 50 family members/friends who would vote exactly how they were told.

[patriot08]

Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138

Must watch videos!

VIDEO-Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

VIDEO- Michael Savage: How Obama fixed the 2012 election:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud;

http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=player_embedded&v=k_rMpQKqZhM ___________________________________________________

We can't wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

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Sign the petition for a recount: http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

Visit this site. They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

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[newnhdad]

This introspection is very reminiscent of 1992 and 1996.
I remember we tried to compromise our values in 1996 and what happened? The game in 2000 was equal and we won with a different message and a very, very strong and dedicated ground game of our people going out there and taking the message to the rest of the people. The effort was focused in 2004 on reaching the elusive 271, not turning liberals into republican voters, they just needed enough to win. This is exactly what Obama did except they set the stage in 2008 and kept their people on the ground for four years.
Face it, it was this close in spite of the weak campaign Romney ran. They never really drew clear distinctions between him and Obama and they never really pressed those that were clear on the campaign trail. He never really said that we need to cut Planned Parenthood funding and PBS because they are profitable entities on their own. He never made the case for how economic growth will increase the tax revenues and reduce the deficit and debt. He never really made the case for why the debt and deficit was a national security issue. What they did was tried to make Romney more likeable and they failed. Taken one at a time, Romney won an all issues except likeability and that was based on a false premise and a media construct.

We need to stop playing the media game and speak to the people on issues we know we all share. The economy, respect for life, national security, freedom to choose, freedom to succeed and freedom to fail.

Like when Bush41 expected to win because Clinton was such a lightweight, we expected the people to see that without really pointing it out. They didn’t. We won by pointing out how much a clown and phony Kerry was and how impressive Bush was at the time. There was no effort in any ads I saw to really point out the embarrassing negatives of Obama out of fear. Bottom line, we had everything on our side but we lost out of fear.

Our messages won. Kaine ran as a Reagan conservative when in fact he’s an ultra leftist liberal and nobody pointed that out. Same with our members of Congress. They lost not because their message was wrong, but the inability of the national message to be communicated clearly.

[jospehm20]

I don’t think McCain was the biggest draw on that ticket.

[iopscusa]

Bad messenger with no message. Mitt the flipper was amazingly not any more believable than Obama. When do we get to hang the GOP-E crowd from the lanyard?

[jospehm20]

I agree with pretty much all of that. They should also cut back on all the debates. I do not see the Republican establishment doing any of it because they got who the wanted as a candidate.

[who knows what evil?]

Has that photo been sent to Drudge, Malkin and the Blaze? Those are the only three news outlets left...

[patriot08]

Don’t know, but I’ll send them one.

[BroJoeK]

jjotto: "Here’s Iowa:"

So your example of Iowa tells us that Obama lost 22,000 votes while Romney gained 38,000 votes, but that is still 87,000 votes short of what's needed to win the state.

Obama's Iowa vote simply fell from 55% to 53%.

That suggests Romney did a pretty good job in Iowa -- increasing his total by almost two votes for every one Obama lost, I'd call it a good job, moving in the right direction, just 87,000 short of being good enough.

But the bottom line is, Romney got 1.3 million fewer votes than McCain (according to Wikipedia), and that pretty well matches the total of Libertarian votes.
I'll say it again: if those Libertarian votes came from solid Democrat or Republican states, it wouldn't matter electorally.

But in how many states did "lost Republican" voters make a difference?
If the answer is "zero", and that implies Romney got all the votes he possibly could have, then it may be time to talk more about Hispanics, blacks, women and all those other groups which allegedly don't like Republicans very much.

But I'm not convinced it's true.
First, let's understand, who are all those 3.4 million who voted for Bush in 2004, and 1.3 million who voted for McCain in 2008, but not Romney in 2012?

[KoRn]

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[gusopol3]

You vote based on who you are, not where you live or how well each campaign has articulated its case. 93% of blacks, 70% of Latinos, 60% of those under 30, and 62% of single people, voted for Obama. And white married couples over 30 years of age voted for Romney. Not much else matters.

This is not true. White union members and their families, I'm sure went heavily Obama, as did trial lawyers. It's still what are your expectations from the government. Seniors are off the Democrat bus because they can see government is going to be taking back from them. Boomers are off the Democrat bus because we see government is going to be taking back from them. California is going to be interesting, because, although the Democrats have achieved hegemony, it doesn't mean competing interests will go away. It's already started with the referenda where public employee expectations are being trimmed. The internecine warfare in the Democrat party should be intense, and the Republicans in the House will not give the Democrats the lifeline of the stimulus they got 4 years ago.