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Why Obama Won
My fevered brain | 11/7/2012 | KK

Posted on 11/07/2012 11:12:51 AM PST by KosmicKitty

Many pardons but search does not appear to be working right now.

Since 3am this morning when I got up and checked the election results, I've been trying to figure out what happened. Mr. Kitty sent me a blog post that I really think explains why BO actually won a second term.

And while it may be combination of many things, I really do believe that the main reason Obama won is because of a dramatic change to the social structure of the United States.

Those of us old enough to remember the Carter presidency believed that, like Reagan's landslide victory, people would be so fed up with the economy, high gas prices, Middle East unrest, and so on, that Romney would win and win big. (When everything old is new again)

But what we didn't consider was the change in American culture that has happened in the last 30 years. Looking at the stats on the blog I have linked to, the largest group voting for Obama is single women, with or without children. In 1980, most women having children were married. now, women are marrying later or choosing not to marry at all whether of not they have children.

What we have now is a society where the traditional male role of husband/father has been supplanted by the government. 40% of all children are being born to single mothers, more than 70% if the mother is African American. America's voting population has experienced a dramatic change in the past 30 years.

What ever the cause, feminism, careers, etc., we have to face the fact that a large number casting their vote are looking at the government as a replacement for husband and father.

I really believe that it's not that Mitt wasn't conservative enough, or the evangelicals stayed home, or whatever. It's the fact that the voting population has changed and the majority of women voting aren't voting for a president, but are voting for government to support them.

If the republicans and/or conservatives want to win, they are going to have to find a way to address the issue of government as supporter/daddy for a majority of the women voters


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KEYWORDS: demographics; feminism; singlewomen; vote2012
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To: KosmicKitty
Maybe in a big picture way. But are those single moms and their kids actually voting?

The differences with 1980: Carter was an abject foreign policy failure; whatever went wrong during Obama's term, he could always point to bin Laden's death (and blame Bush). Also, I don't know if the books have been cooked to hide price increases, but we don't have double digit inflation as we did in the Seventies.

Two more factors in this election: the auto bailout was a plus for Obama in the Midwest, and enough Hispanic voters are willing to punish any talk of immigration reform to sway some Western states (and perhaps Florida).

101 posted on 11/07/2012 3:52:30 PM PST by x
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To: vanilla swirl
The uncomfortable fact is that Christianity (which is really what we are talking about) rarely wins shooting wars.

Then we need to find another way to win.

I know, if it was only that easy.

102 posted on 11/07/2012 3:52:57 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Sam Gamgee
You might have something there. Also a lack of wisdom. I recall watching an old Donahue from the early 80s (or was it late 70s) where he interviewed Ayn Rand. Even though many disagreed with her the questions from the audience were intelligent and well informed on economic issue

Definitely! We have be come a stupid society. One of the sources I blame - Sesame Street. We've forced learning into 30 second clips. I teach college level classes and textbooks are now filled with big colorful meaningless diagrams to "capture" the attention of students. It's a shame!! Learning doesn't really happen like it does on Sesame Street.

103 posted on 11/07/2012 3:57:35 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Boogieman

Three things that will bring a reversal of all this:

Depression (could bring more socialism)

Major War (won’t happen) I don’t think Iran will attack Israel. I would wait and let demographics run it’s course. Muslim increase in population and then push for total democracy.

Major terrorist attack ( if I were an islamic terrorist, why attack the US with a sympathizer in the WH)?

I think we’re up sh!% creek without a paddle.


104 posted on 11/07/2012 5:13:01 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

Well, we do have one advantage, if we are smart enough to capitalize on it. Now that it looks like we may be out of power for a while, the Democrats will get to see what it is like to be “the Man” again. It’s a lot harder to convince the kids that you are the cool, rebellious outsiders when you have been controlling the country for years and years.

If we’re smart, we will wear the media derision and smears against us as a badge of honor, and play up our image as the renegades. Breitbart knew how to play up that angle very well, but most of the rest of our gang is hopeless when it comes to being “hip”.


105 posted on 11/07/2012 5:33:50 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: KosmicKitty

Sesame Street is crap, but I think it’s just a symptom. The real problem is that too many parents just farm out the responsibility for educating their kids, to PBS, or some “edutainment” DVD’s, or the public skools. Kids need parents to care about whether they are learning and what they are learning, otherwise the kids aren’t going to care much themselves.


106 posted on 11/07/2012 5:44:45 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: ebersole
I surely can try and raise my children with traditional (albeit...uncool as defined by the masses) morals and values, and I can control my own actions and behaviors.

And that is purely self governance, American style.
107 posted on 11/07/2012 10:14:22 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: KosmicKitty

I’ve been thinking about this myself. Young women were not created (or evolved) to be alone. No matter the culture, it’s part of our biology. They are insecure and fearful, and therefore irrational because of it. It’s less unusual for young men to go off on their own, still not the healthiest thing, but definitely not for young females.


108 posted on 11/07/2012 10:18:29 PM PST by UltraV (I use the term Leftist not liberal, because a true liberal would not support government censorship.)
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To: equaviator
Yah, I've been called a conspiracy theorist, but I've been asking what stops the Dems from cheating more and bigger than just what we manage to catch? Haven't got a good answer. Who will stop them in their own districts? Do the poll watchers get to actually watch the counting? How can I be sure my vote gets counted? Even if I get a slip of paper I don't know it will be counted. Many of us have to trust "enemy" partisans' integrity. And I don't know if you've noticed, but they hate us and barely accept we're human. So yah, we have to trust. But Reagan also said to Verify. We are fools if we don't.
109 posted on 11/07/2012 10:23:46 PM PST by UltraV (I use the term Leftist not liberal, because a true liberal would not support government censorship.)
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To: UltraV

There are those called Truthers (9/11), Birthers (Obama birth certificate), and Deniers (climate change).

As of yesterday, I include myself as a member of what I’ll refer to as the “Counters” (voter fraud 2012) group.


110 posted on 11/08/2012 3:14:12 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: KosmicKitty

American voted with her “lady parts” alright and succeeeded in becoming a gigantic dumb tw@t.


111 posted on 11/08/2012 3:24:04 AM PST by Catmom
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To: KosmicKitty

The election was stolen via massive fraud. Pure and simple. There simply aren’t enough sluts or I would have never bothered to graduate college.


112 posted on 11/08/2012 3:55:56 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: mellow velo

As of yesterday, my 24’ flag pole is naked.


113 posted on 11/08/2012 5:02:17 AM PST by Tugo (A simple sojourners.)
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To: Boogieman
If we’re smart, we will wear the media derision and smears against us as a badge of honor, and play up our image as the renegades. Breitbart knew how to play up that angle very well, but most of the rest of our gang is hopeless when it comes to being “hip”.

This is the kind of thinking we need. We are Breitbart


114 posted on 11/08/2012 5:42:27 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Caipirabob
There simply aren’t enough sluts or I would have never bothered to graduate college.

You didn't go to my alma mater. In the late 1970's in a school when women outnumbered men 2 to 1, any guy who wanted some could find it.

Of course, a large number of girls were looking for their MRS degree

115 posted on 11/08/2012 5:44:53 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: All
Of course, I realized this morning that I never posted a link to data about the single woman vote.

Duh!!

Here's the link that got me thinking:

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/11/gender-gap-8-points-but-marriage-gap-21.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The one I found most interesting:

Are you currently married?
Category	Obama	Romney	% Total
Yes	           42	    56	           60
No	           62	    35	           40

116 posted on 11/08/2012 5:50:12 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: All
Of course, I realized this morning that I never posted a link to data about the single woman vote.

Duh!!

Here's the link that got me thinking:

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/11/gender-gap-8-points-but-marriage-gap-21.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The one I found most interesting:

Are you currently married?
Category	Obama	Romney	    % Total
Yes	           42	    56	        60
No	           62	    35	        40

117 posted on 11/08/2012 5:51:03 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Boogieman

Rush just played a quote by Cain that we need a third party for conservatives. If he acts on that, me and my money will follow.

The goal is to have a party which has conservative values and platform and make the repubs the third party.

We are now a minority in a minority party.

I’m 66 and have no more patience for b—lsh!&.


118 posted on 11/08/2012 11:31:02 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: equaviator

I am the furthest thing from a “troo believer.” I follow the idea that “extraordinary theories require extraordinary evidence.” I’m not a 9/11 truther or a birther (I think the scandal is Obama pretended to be Kenyan-born which helped him get into Harvard.) Climate change happens, it’s happened as long as the world has existed. Not enough evidence to show we are to blame for any weather pattern changes of the last few decades. Definitely not enough for the Greenies to try to “fix” it.

It’s just we can’t take for granted that Democrats acting as an organized cheating machine isn’t an extraordinary proposition. We know they are amoral. We know they are organized. We know they hate us. We know they feel justified with every slimy move they pull. We know they try to cheat and don’t find a problem with it. It’s just the fact that it’s really comfortably easy to say “pah on conspiracy theories” and it’s hard to actually accept the world is not as nice as we like to think.

I have a friend who is going to look at the numbers by voting precinct and see whether there are any irregularities between ‘08 and ‘12. Already we are seeing interesting things, even if they are legit. For one, Republican turnout was not down evenly across the board. Romney got way more votes in TX than McCain received in 08. Wisconsin netted more than 150K more this election as well. But in OK and Kansas, Republican turnout dropped. Also in Vermont. Because they knew how their states would go? Perhaps. But I’m tired of the “evangelicals didn’t turn out” line as if we are a monolith of belief. We can’t just assume without actually looking at the data. Of course I want to compare the Dem-controlled district turnout in BG states with Rep-controlled districts. That could show any oddities in counting.

Forgive the overlong post. Got a lot of thoughts on this subject. :)


119 posted on 11/08/2012 3:00:48 PM PST by UltraV (I use the term Leftist not liberal, because a true liberal would not support government censorship.)
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To: UltraV

I think we have probable cause to investigate.

Yes, there are the Truthers, Birthers and Deniers but now we have the “Counters”.

Why should we settle for less when so much is at stake?


120 posted on 11/09/2012 1:52:46 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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