Posted on 11/02/2012 8:52:45 PM PDT by publana
I have cut off all ties to my liberal friends except two. The only way we've remained friends the last four years is to not talk politics because when the least casual political topic arose, we would end up not speaking to each other for weeks. These two are as extreme left-wing as anyone can be. They are extreme morons politically.
The only reason I continued the relationship is that they are good people. I have always believed that they *think* they are left-wingers out of ignorance and possibly are one issue voters as they are two women living together for the last 25 years. If they could just be shown the light, they would vote differently. Perhaps I rationalized the relationship, but they have been good friends to me over the years. The help you bury the bodies type of friends.
They started a food trailer business with $20K seed money from a Conservative. They have since borrowed $2K from a Conservative sister and I have given them $10K. With the economy as it is, it has been a struggle for them.
They admitted tonight that they applied for all the various small business help they thought the Democrats would give them. The only people that helped them were we three Conservatives. Since they believed that Conservatives only cared about themselves and Democrats helped one another, it was a rude awakening. Last week they said they could not in good conscience negate the votes of those that helped them. They decided to stay home on election day.
Tonight they announced they have seen the light. The economy that they had stated in the past was fine, is killing them. They need the economy improved and the kicker... they need less government involvement in their business to succeed! They are voting for Romney on Nov 6.
It has renewed my faith in Americans. If these two are voting for Romney, he should win in a landslide.
My mother voted for Obama because of a sense of white, liberal guilt and the onset of dementia.
She’s dead now, so Obama won’t be getting her vote this time around. (no dead people voting jokes, please)
Second post you said,
"Seriously, stop trying to reason/logic them out of a position they eschewed reason/logic to enter into."
then what is your secret how do you get them to listen?
I attempt to use emotions against them but it doesn't seem to have much of an effect. I explain to them taking from the poor to give to the rich isn't my idea of right and wrong.
Then I explain how stimulus takes from the poor to give to the rich and as soon as I use the word 'stimulus' they have this trigger in their head or something that gives them a positive feeling and anything else I said is ignored.
how do you talk with these cultists?
Good idea in theory but I know a number of people running a small business that loves big government. They complain about government but somehow they never connect the dots
It’s going around. My wife will be casting her first ever vote for a GOP candidate this year.
Allow them to feel comfortable to ask you a specific question, and just answer that one question, as succinctly as possible.
Then stop, talk about something else.
Don’t allow yourself to be baited into strawman arguments. There is a reason it’s always been considered rude to talk politics or religion if you already know you disagree with someone, or don’t know where they stand.
It’s a process.
If your answer is honest and correct, they are more liable to ask you other questions in the future.
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