Posted on 10/28/2012 11:54:10 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at3
This is from what i think is a bouy close to the center of the storm. Wind speed 39G48 not bad although 26 ft waves for 13 seconds is batten down the hatches stuff. So if it heads W with these numbers what will winds be be at land fall?
Is the storm hyped up?
I think it is hitting a front too, or something, but the fact it is affecting NYC and somewhat affecting some swing states (VA, OH) is adding to the coverage. If this was hitting Idaho, the media and Obama would not care.
It wasn’t POTUS, but didn’t 9/11/01 fall on a primary or something in NYC?
The grocery store was packed yesterday with everyone buying fixings for French toast (milk, eggs, and bread.). I went to the store as a normal trip, not to stock up. Today I went to the liquor store, and it was packed. These are the optimistic people. I wish things would get bad enough that I would have a day off or two from work so that I could hang out with my neighbors and help each other get through to rough times of having to use ice before it melts and drink beer before it gets warm.
Once in a lifetime setup? I am located in Houston where Hurricanes are taken seriously. Can you imagine people up north having no clue of the potential problems.
Actually, the current hype claims it will strengthen tomorrow as it goes over warmer Gulf Stream waters. The influences they are talking about are a lack of shearing that will allow the storm to strengthen, if it so desires. All that potential strengthening requires a 90 degree turn into the dominant mid-latitude air flows (west to east). A few of the models now are back to predicting it will not turn west.
So this is a once or twice a century occurrence?
The way otherwise independent influences are coming together for this is terrifying. I’m reminded of the “Columbus Day Storm” here in the NW. That also has its infancy in a tropical storm, with synergistic northern latitude influences combing to create a killer storm.
I don’t know — haven’t heard that. I’m just thinking ahead as to what the Dems might try and pull — what with flooding and electric outage and postal trucks getting swamped — guess too much time on my hands.
Bravo!
combing = combining
I stand by what I say. The models show only about a 5 knot strengthening due to traverse of warmer water — regaining strength it had lost earlier — then the influence of the “larger, nor’easter-like circulation” keeping energy levels up and the storm alive for an unusual period at this latitude.
Yesterday, a television meteorologist explained that it's a different sort of hurricane and that even though it may be categorized as only a "one" level, it is extremely dangerous for other reasons. The size of it is monstrous and I've heard that the amount of rain it will dump on the NE will most certainly cause horrible flooding.
Last year's Hurricane Irene was nothing compared to this one but go back and look at video of the flooding that resulted. Now people are saying this one is hyped because Irene didn't turn out so badly. I wouldn't take the chance myself.
How would you say this compares to Irene?
I’m in the Houston area as well. This storm will be about 2x bigger than Ike...same pressure (roughly). Winds will be less...but surge will be the killer.
I just told my staff not to report to work tomorrow ... mainly because we have a formal state of emergency declaration here in New Jersey, and the public transit agencies are going to be shutting down service starting this evening.
The weather poodles on the weather channel are becoming boring. I personally do not care how many windy beaches you stand on, just give me the facts and not your sissy panic-mode hysteria.
I'm not taking it has hype.
I did however change the channel when Obama came out to warn us.
Yes. The Gulf Stream will strengthen the storm, as you stated. The presence of the other low pressure takes away the wind shear weakening and allows strengthening. So if the storm takes a 90 degree left turn, does not experience any wind shear, it will strengthen before combining with another low pressure system. At that point, if all that happens, you are not talking about Sandy anymore. You are talking about a new beast and yes, if all that occurs, it could be a serious precipitation event. But that is a lot of if’s.
I change channels when he comes on too.
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