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Five reasons why Windows 8 has Apple and Google beaten. Microsoft will win the tablet war
TechRadar ^ | 10/28/2012 | By Jeremy Laird

Posted on 10/28/2012 6:20:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

LOL! Pure geek fantasy. I went to check out the Surface and Win 8 at the Microsoft Store yesterday. I was browsing on the Surface and Explorer too forever to load a page and get to native resolution.

Surface hardware is a bit heavy, plasticy, and cheap feeling — a bigger Kindle Fire (previous version) at an iPad price. Windows 8 isn’t entirely intuitive like iOS or Android either. It’s an interesting concept, but doesn’t seem like it’s just there yet.

Clearly it’s a Rev A product. This version isn’t going to outsell anyone. We’ll see what next enhancement next round brings. But I don’t see a whole lot of consumers buying in just yet at least — if every. Consumers are moving away from the the traditional CPU all together (See falling PC sales) and with the big libraries of apps people already have for their Android and iOS devices, Microsoft is still far back in this race.


21 posted on 10/28/2012 7:03:26 AM PDT by The Hound Passer
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To: B Knotts

The touch experience is different on that Win 8 interface as opposed to using the interface with a mouse. With the ability to slide pages with fingers, slide tabs back and forth one finds Win 8 is much more intuitive then one first would expect. With the mouse though it is horrid and one is resentful that one has to buy a touch enabled screen to to get the full benefit of Windows 8 touch UI!


22 posted on 10/28/2012 7:05:05 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The big problem with dictators is that empowering them always seems like a good idea at the time.)
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To: Sherman Logan

That super virus will be called Ice Nine!


23 posted on 10/28/2012 7:07:56 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sorry, but I am not looking forward to Windows 8’s interface, at all.

My wife and I are now considering an Apple for her.

I don’t trust Microsoft to upgrade a dang thing on ANY portable device. Apple gives you OS, security, functionality, and bug fixes for over FOUR YEARS. And all Apple portable devices JUST WORK.

My family went through four Windows devices and none worked as advertised and they consistently crashed with no option to fix the issues short of buying a new Windows device with a new version of the Windows OS.

Microsoft’s whole approach, which actually seems is also Android’s MO by accident, is to have device makers never bother to upgrade any existing device for longer than six months, if at all.

I can’t tell you how much happier we are with devices that have ACTIVE support one year later!!


24 posted on 10/28/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: The Hound Passer

“I was browsing on the Surface and Explorer too forever to load a page and get to native resolution.”

Did you rule out a slow connection to the router/internet source because too many folks were on line at the same time?

I’ve have Win 8/IE 9 on my 5 year old amd machine and it connects really fast and loads pages quickly. I don’t have the “surface machines” though.


25 posted on 10/28/2012 7:13:56 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The big problem with dictators is that empowering them always seems like a good idea at the time.)
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To: tacticalogic

No, it has plenty of interface changes on the default setting which result in a truly inane user experience. This was not a matter of being set up wrong.


26 posted on 10/28/2012 7:15:00 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ShadowAce; Swordmaker

Hey ShadowAce, this might be worthy of a tech ping.


27 posted on 10/28/2012 7:26:37 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: drbuzzard
This was not a matter of being set up wrong.

That's a matter of opinion. Like I said, the default installation is server core. Your UI is a Powershell console. Somebody had to make the decision to install a GUI on that server, and IMHO, that's wrong.

28 posted on 10/28/2012 7:31:02 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This, on laptops,...

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might just slow Windows 8 down a little!

29 posted on 10/28/2012 7:33:38 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: SeekAndFind

My biggest gripe with Windows 8: that radical interface, the biggest change to Windows since Windows 95 arrived some 17 years ago. It’s going to take a while for end users to accept and master that radical change.


30 posted on 10/28/2012 7:35:36 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: mdmathis6
With the ability to slide pages with fingers, slide tabs back and forth one finds Win 8 is much more intuitive then one first would expect. With the mouse though it is horrid and one is resentful that one has to buy a touch enabled screen to to get the full benefit of Windows 8 touch UI!

I don't want to have to buy a touch screen. I don't want to have to move the screen from the far corner of my desk to right in front of my face in the middle of my work area so that I can comfortably touch it. I don't want the fingerprints and smudges on the touch screen taking control of my OCD.

31 posted on 10/28/2012 7:39:03 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: tacticalogic

No, the idea that a powershell console is the default UI is your own opinion. It is not the MS standard by any means.


32 posted on 10/28/2012 7:41:14 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: SeekAndFind

By and large people either hate windows or, at best, tolerate it. Nobody (that I know of) actually likes it. I think any predictions of impending world domination by Microsoft needs to take this into account.


33 posted on 10/28/2012 7:49:22 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Labyrinthos
I don't want the fingerprints and smudges on the touch screen taking control of my OCD.

That's why Windows 8 supports Microsoft's Kinect technology.....to soon allow gesture control without touching the screen at all!

Windows 8 is designed with a lot of future enhancements in mind that will cater to all tastes.

34 posted on 10/28/2012 7:52:13 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Has Microsoft enabled an option in Win 8 to turn off the touch interface or the tiles in what they call the Metro Sexual UI? If I can’t get a classic desktop (and no I don’t mean the workaround where you can get to a desktop but requiring a few key clicks to make it happen). Also is there a classic start menu option? If not I stick with Win 7


35 posted on 10/28/2012 7:57:34 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Sherman Logan
I think in five years all but the phone will have largely disappeared as “computers.”

Not in the Enterprise. And not for a lot of us. To me, it would make a LOT more sense to make the desktop the repository, and the smartphone the dumb terminal.
36 posted on 10/28/2012 8:00:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

RE: By and large people either hate windows or, at best, tolerate it. Nobody (that I know of) actually likes it.

So, the fact that Windows dominates over 90% of the world’s operating system requires some explanation.

Why can’t LINUX dominate? I’ve waited a decade for it to overtake Windows but we’re still in the same status quo.


37 posted on 10/28/2012 8:04:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: rlmorel

Yes I have posted that image before referencing the Idiocracy movie scene with the tv showing a crap load of advertisments with a tiny center screen of actual tv content. Windows 8 is the further dumbing down of the populace.


38 posted on 10/28/2012 8:06:34 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

People liked XP, Microsoft hit it perfect

People tolerate Win 7 because it’s more XP like than Vista. Though if it weren’t for programs like Classic Shell more people would really hate 7 also.

The further Microsoft gets away from XP the more people are going to reject their OS


39 posted on 10/28/2012 8:08:05 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author of this piece doesn not understand Apple’s marketing.

This idea that the Mac-mini is crippled to not cannibalize the iMac and the iMac is crippled to not cannibalize the Mac Pro may not know that the current iMac is already more powerful than a stock Mac Pro.

Apple likes keeping product lines lean, especially after the Gil Amelio disaster. IN fact, Apple discontinued to Mac XServe, and recommended NOT the Mac Pro, but the Mac Mini as a replacement.

Apple is about profits, and when three cell phone models that are more alike than different carve out a huge chunk of the entire market in a short time, when battling against dozens of Android models of every stripe, the result for Apple is $$$$$. Apple would love cannibalization if they could get Mini and Pro users to use the iMac, and the Mac Book users over to the Mac Air. Apple wants folks in their eco system, and they want to keep the number of devices well under control

The author also hasn’t noted that Apple is trying to make OS X more iOS like, so far without the touch capabilities.

The new Microsoft Windows incarnation, like the ribbon interface before it, is a solution to a problem that people weren’t complaining about. I almost suspect, after Microsoft’s failed Windows Tablet Edition 10 years ago, that the ships are being burned to make sure that Microsoft doesn’t bail out this time. That’s a big gamble.

There is a market for a Microsoft OS tablet in the Enterprise, as Apple is aggressively indifferent to security and user management issues. That doesn’t mean they dominate. Rather than converging all computing into the phone, an absurdity, Apple will be the Toyota, IBM will be Mack Truck, and Microsoft will be GM. Everyone making money, some more than others, in differently defined markets.

Desktops and phones are no more converging than pick up trucks and motor scooters.


40 posted on 10/28/2012 8:14:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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