Pure Vanity: Why Things Have Changed With Blacks and Obama After Tonight

Myself | 10/27/12

[Daaave]

This post might be a little garbled, but I hope I got my points across.

Your post is fine. I agree with what you said.

[advertising guy]

I typed it as if I had a tape recorder on

[Windflier]

I come from a very large family of black Democrats. What you saw and heard tonight from black people you talked to, has been going on with my family for the last two years.

Me being the sole conservative Republican in the clan, they won’t come right out and tell me how disillusioned they are with Obama, but the last time I was back home in California, all traces of their love affair with The One had vanished.

When the subject of politics inevitably came up, they all sat and quietly listened to me expound upon my conservative views, without interruption. In times past, they would have all ganged up on me, and shouted me down, but something had dramatically changed with them.

To be honest, it was actually unnerving. I’ve never seen them this way before.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

I have a few extended family members who are degenerate liberals and have decided to sit this one out. I suspect that’s how most of them are. They know Zero is crap, they can’t bring themselves to vote for Romney, so they’ll either vote for Ralph Nader or stay home.

[onyx]

LOL. Well, your tape recorder is a hoot! Leave it on “record”!

[MayflowerMadam]

My niece’s husband is black. They voted Obama in ‘08. Not this year. They’re angry about his immigration policies that will wind up with illegals taking jobs from (black) Americans. There was one other strong reason, but I can’t recall it now (gay marriage, IIRC). Anyhow, they’ll be voting Romney.

[Mike Darancette]

Where I live people are defacing cars parked near Romney signs.

[American Constitutionalist]

The economy and Obama's support for Gay marriage is what turned off many black people away from him.
Black people in general never bought into the lie that the same struggle that they had was or is somehow in terms related to the imagined so called struggle of homos.

However ? I would go on to say that black people have wasted their political capital by voting for this fraud.
I do hope that you can convince and encourage at least some of them to give Romney a chance now, today in this election.

[Shortstop7]

Yep..I don’t think it’s going to happen for the kids this time. They don’t seem to be feeling it. I think that’s why we saw the “sexy Obama political ad” come out...they know the college kids aren’t feeling it this time.

Also, those college kids aren’t all dummies. They are seeing mom and dad struggling. Some of them may become Republicans at 30 instead of 40 :)

[Windflier]

Take this to the bank: blacks will vote well over 90% for Obama.

Try not to think of black voters as such a monolithic generality. Believe it or not, there are great differences in the opinions and personal considerations of blacks, just as there are among any other group of Americans.

The anecdotal stories you're reading about some blacks' disappointments with Obama, are real, and should not be discounted. The truth is, that sentiment is widespread, and not confined to blacks who are unemployed, or who don't think Obama's done enough to rip off Whitey.

My siblings are all professional people with careers, homes, 401Ks, investment portfolios, college kids, grandkids, etc. They're also black Democrats who voted for Obama in 2008, and every one of them quit singing Obama's praises two years ago. Even during this hotly contested election, they haven't uttered a single word about him.

I half expect most of them to stay home on election day. Of those blacks who do get to the polls, perhaps 9 in 10 will vote for Obama, but their numbers will be greatly decreased from the turnout of four years ago.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Same as 2008? Nooooo wayyyyyy.

[Windflier]

I’m guessing just about the same number of blacks are going to come out in 12 for Obama as they did in 08.

You should quit guessing, and go talk to some black voters. Talk to a lot of them (as I do). You'll be amazed at how apathetic they are about The One.

[emax]

Now the Conservative Community just need to 1. Have a Plan A in order to prevent voter fraud from being used to get Obama reelected 2. A Plan B, C, D, E, F through Z to allow us to prepare to handle the worst case disaster scenario that Obama gets elected through voter fraud and other means. What are the Plans A through Z that we have ?

[sand88]

When the subject of politics inevitably came up, they all sat and quietly listened to me expound upon my conservative views, without interruption. In times past, they would have all ganged up on me, and shouted me down, but something had dramatically changed with them.

windflier, your posts are always interesting! Next time you should pass out Sowell's books!! I have many of his books -- we are blessed to have his genius in writing.

[Windflier]

...to me the unique failure of Obama, in terms of the black americans has been how he did NOTHING, NOTHING! to at least try and use the bully pulpit to pull the black family off the edge of the abyss.

[GeronL]

Why don’t you mention how much the new park cost taxpayers?

[LongWayHome]

I understnd that there are blacks who are upset with Obama like the rest of us are. I don’t believe this election will turn one way or the other on the black vote. It will be independents & women who swing this thing to Mitt. Might less blacks come out this year....perhaps. But not enough will stay home to swing this election to Mitt IMO. Sorry folks, that’s just how I see it.

[American Constitutionalist]

" When the subject of politics inevitably came up, they all sat and quietly listened to me expound upon my conservative views, without interruption. In times past, they would have all ganged up on me, and shouted me down, but something had dramatically changed with them. "

Perhaps maybe they have crossed that line of " seeing the light " or perhaps they are on that threshold.
They need a soft gentle coaxing in the right direction.

In your case I would not try to rub it in if Obama loses.
It seems there is a very good opening for you there and if you had enough time you could be persuasive to have them actually vote for Romney.
My mom ?
She is or was a life long diehard FDR always voted Democrat.
Not so in 2008 and not so this year either, so there is hope.
In your case ?
Show them you love them, show them it's ok to let go of things that you thought were once true.

They could be looking for a reason to admit they were wrong ( not that you need them to actually admit it to you ).

Begin with a soft handed approach with them.
I am very sure that they are very aware of how they treated you, mocked you, ganged up on you in the past... but, show them grace.

[FryingPan101]

 I know of two black families who are solid Democrats. We’ve talked often. They’re educated, religious, sports fans, family-oriented. They’re not going to vote. The local slate of candidates doesn’t impress them and most of them run unopposed. Obama is a mess in their opinion. They resent the parties he has at the WH that have no bearing on entertaining dignitaries. They hate the way he talks. Jive talking’. it rubs them the wrong way. They never asked anything of him except he be a good steward and a positive image for blacks. He failed.

You’re probably right that he will get 90% of the black vote but I think there will be far fewer voting.

[tomkat]

Thanks for your post, and the other one above it .. encouraging anecdotal news, and not isolated, I'm sure.

Every journey truly begins with that first single step !