...my other brotherPosted on 10/22/2012 3:00:11 PM PDT by djone
"We are only two episodes into the new season, and it appears that AMC's "The Walking Dead" may have been resurrected after last year’s mostly craptacular second season, which was preceded by a pretty craptacular first season. And the reason seems to be the conservative outlook that the show has now embraced. Let’s pause for a moment to let the fanatic liberal fanboy virgins fulminate and fret over the notion that their favorite zombie show may have been saved by their characters’ (and the writers’) change – unconscious almost certainly – from a liberal world view to a conservative one.... Let’s understand the difference between a liberal world view and a conservative one. It’s not necessarily about retail politics, though you got some sense of it with the “I don’t believe in guns” crap early on, as if the world wasn’t crawling with cannibal corpses looking to dine on the lesser cast members. And it is not just that the views of the Georgian characters seemed to be the same as the views of the provincial Hollywood screenwriters – country folk are racists and sinister, religious folk are abusive and borderline psycho, and the only good cops are the ones who soft pedal the macho......
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Well true enough,,,,but I also read that in the comix that one of Michonne’s pet zombies is an ex-boyfriend. Cutting off his arms, his jaw, then putting him on a leash well that kinda hints that she may have a problem with men.
Sounds more like he was her husband instead of boy friend. ;-)
I’ve always been fond of our Michigan flag because it has a picture of a man with a gun.
A lot of this conflict, though, you can see in other post-apocalyptic dramas (Falling Skies, Jericho, Jeremiah, and now, Revolution). The same moral conflicts come to be expected, so maybe it is time for something different, a different approach. A futuristic world can't be too radically different from our own, though, or viewers will find it hard to relate to.
Most script writers come from sheltered upper-middle class families and have not ever been in the life-or-death situations constantly encountered by slum-dwellers. Their whole attitude is that solution to crime is jobs programs, and anything other than jobs programs fails to address the problem.
For me, the defining liberal stupidity moment in the show was the constant fighting over whether people should have guns or not.
I suspect this is a practical issue. Having people wrangling about ideology introduces a note of tension that makes the program a drama rather than a wall-to-wall zombie roller-coaster ride. Guns are like the Hand of God - they settle issues a little too quickly in ways that reduce rather than increase tension. The overuse of guns in a production doesn't add much value - just think of all the crappy war movies that Chuck Norris starred in.
When she sliced those walkers' heads off, I told my wife & kids they better not get any ideas when I say 'no'! ;-)
Blackirish, my favorite character is Darryl. He just gets the job done.
And I don't think his brother will be a problem for him. Darryl understands what's up, and his brother still won't get it.
The pain you feel today is the strength you'll have tomorrow.
“Doris better cut the hippie neighbor loose. He’s an anchor.”
Heck,she’s not much better. Talking about how her neighbors “have her back” while she doesn’t like guns. What the heck does she expect them to have ber back with?
When SHTF, she’s food too. And her hippie neighbor will lead them to her.
It was her boyfriend (not ex), but it wasn’t like that. He had turned, as had her friend (the other one). Michonne figured out that having them with her as a distracting scent helped her “hide” her human scent from the zombies. She also used them as pack mules. She cut the arms and jaws off so they couldn’t attack her. She kills them immediately after meeting the group so they would allow her to stay.
I enjoy the show, but the comics are a zillion times better. They are also much darker.
My neighbors and I help each other out but my neighbors are conservatives. There are probably 6 of us here in town with enough food stockpiled to feed the whole town for a couple weeks.
It would be some short rations but there are only 150 of us and we’re surrounded by fish and game as well as other wild forage.
I’d be OK with 42 minutes of Andrea every episode ;)
Who is Doris? I don’t remember that character
>>I enjoy the show, but the comics are a zillion times better. They are also much darker.<<
Absolutely. Has October’s issue been released yet? Issue 100 disturbed me for a good day and a half...I hated it, but loved it at the same time.
Good to see that this season is showing Carl as the comics depict him.
Sorry, Doris is the Prepper ref’d in Post #4.
“If she cared even a LITTLE for her kid, she would never let him go beyond 3 feet from her sight. It would be INSTINCTIVE. They would all be scared, for one, and people don’t do cavalier stuff when they are afraid. That is why having a bunch of sheltered, spoiled, never-seen-real-danger Hollywood left-wingers writing for a show like this tends to suck: they have no idea what real people would do in a survival situation because they’ve NEVER SEEN IT.”
My wife is from Mexico City (all legal, a citizen and a registered Republican), so she has street sense. She doesn’t let our kids go ANYWHERE without knowing what they’re doing, who they’re with, etc. She does NOT let them out of her sight when in public places. Hell, she only stopped closing the garage door while still in the car a year or so ago, after years of me abusing her about it. IOW, my wife is AWARE of her surroundings and AWARE that danger lurks out there - even pre-zombie. Oh, and she knows how to shoot...I’m afraid that I’ll lose my favorite gun when the zombies come. :>)
I love TWD, though I got pretty disgusted with the touchy-feely, kumbaya BS last season. First season, I could understand the lack of common sense by a bunch of suburban folk, because their world was turned upside down pretty much instantly. By season 2 they should have been far more sensible, and largely weren’t. Now it looks like they’ve wised up for the most part. I don’t understand, though, why they don’t use guns more - most of the people are gone, and you can presume that most homes and (especially) the prison would have plenty that wasn’t expended in the initial appearance of the zombies. Close range, you use your most deadly (no pun intended) weapons - longer range, you can use bows & arrows and such, so as to conserve ammo.
Anyway, looking forward to a much better season...especially if we don’t have a Zed as President. I, for one, am very tired of the undead that we have to deal with now - those wandering around in a daze, expecting everyone else to provide a pound of flesh for them just because they exist, and threatening to riot if they don’t get what they want. Oh, and the present undead are also, thankfully, largely unable/unwilling to use guns, just like the Zeds on TWD.
I give people in those state a lot of credit (though a good deal less if they vote for President Zed), but I think that we in Texas alone would give those states a good run for your money. At the time of Waco (20 years ago) it was reported that there were 2 guns in Texas for every adult - and we've been adding to the stockpile since. There are 25 million people here, probably 18-19 million of whom are adults, so do the math...and, at least among those that I know, 2 per adult is considerably on the light side.
All things considered, the more the merrier. More means less chance of the guberment trying to take too many of our liberties. I wish that people had twice as many.
love that show and I think it captures how one in that sort of life has to be.
The tree hugging, anti gun view would be gone in a heartbeat if the world came to sort of an end.
Dog eats dog and you stay with those you trust.
Oh and I think the redneck, forget his name now is brilliant and by far my best charcater, if TSHTF then he is the kind of guy I want beside me not some pansy, tutu fairy girlie boy/man.
Even in the south you still have unarmed people. According the the FBI 1/3 of all American homes have guns, that still means 2/3 don’t.
Yes Rick had a bag full of guns. And then lost them. And then got them back. And then they got overrun. And then they went to the CDC. From the time Rick joined the group to the end of season 1 was under a week. When they finally did get some time in season 2 at the farm they indeed DID start teaching people how to shoot.
It’s not excusing to understand reality. She’d lived her life in a safe normal world where your kid can go out and play. And now she’s learning, not to mention dealing with all the psychological stress, almost everybody she’s ever known is dead, people are around her keep dieing, the dead are walking, people don’t just wake up one morning able to deal with a new scary reality. There’s a psychological process to deal with trauma, and people don’t function at their best during that.
Why wouldn’t people wander off alone. As you point out, they’re terrified. Any military trainer can tell you fear is the number one emotion for making bad decisions, that’s why so much of training is focused on making you work through fear. Heck Shane even talks about that while training Andrea how to shoot. Yes they SHOULDN’T wander off alone, but they will. People in bad situations do stupid things all the time, because they’re scared and people don’t think right then.
Nothing “suddenly” about it. One of the first things we’re told in the season 3 opener is that they’ve gone all through winter, we’re now 3 to 6 months after the end of season 2 and they’ve spent that time as a roaming band of foragers killing walkers. EVERYBODY has gotten better tactically. Because they’ve gotten the training and experience. It didn’t take months and a lot of whining to start that, they started that training in season 2, a few weeks after Rick joined the group. Your problem is you’re not understanding the timeline math. Season 1 from Rick getting to Atlanta to CDC getting blown up was about a week, season 2 from the freeway to the farm getting overrun was under a month, actually probably closer to 3 weeks. Total time from Rick getting to Atlanta to them starting the training was about 3 weeks, mostly on the run. The progression of what’s happened is very reasonable when you understand the math. They wanted to arm the group but understood most of the group needed training, when they had time for training they trained, now people are trained and they’re armed.
Lori bears some responsibility for his death, as she was playing him like a fiddle. Rick should kick her out and hook up with the blond - Lori's not a good mother or a wife.
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