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Walmart is proposing to build one of their Big Box stores in our neighborhood.

The parcel of land was for decades a plant nursery which recently ceased business and the land was rezoned for professional/light commerce, compatible with surrounding businesses.

Walmart's proposal will require a rezoning to heavy commercial. The hearing master meeting is October 15.

The parcel of land is on the main four lane north/south road, heavily trafficked, of Tampa, Florida, at an intersection with a two lane road of residential housing. It will require erecting a stop light.

One can go in any direction from this spot and within two miles shop at an existing Walmart if one wanted to do so.

It would appear that a large majority of businesses and residents in the immediate area are adamantly opposed and are organized with sign holding protests at the intersection three mornings a week, distribution of information packets informing people of the proposed change, the bureaucratic process involved, and what they can do to support the effort to oppose Walmart. We continue to receive helpful TV and print media coverage of this "David and Goliath" confrontation.

Any input would be appreciated.

1 posted on 10/10/2012 8:09:53 AM PDT by Beowulf
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A few years ago I went to a Walmart to buy some items.

I then went to a local big box grocery store for things WM did not carry. The first thing I noticed was the price for the same brand goods at the (Unionized) grocery store were TWICE THE PRICE of Walmart.

One woman looked at the higher priced item, shook her head in sticker shock, put it in her cart, and said..” Well, it is just too far to go to Walmart right now.”


26 posted on 10/10/2012 8:24:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Good luck. Walmart can be extremely devastating to the character of existing quiet, established communities and especially to Mom and Pop small businesses.

I don't know if this is any help to you, but it's a 97 minute documentary "Walmart: The High Cost Of Low Prices" on Walmart's nefarious practices: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jazb24Q2s94

27 posted on 10/10/2012 8:25:24 AM PDT by Amagi (Chief Justice John Roberts is a traitorous weasel.)
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When I lived in Michigan, whenever Walmart wanted to expand the plot of land they were proposing to build on would mysteriously be declared a “wetland”.

The whole state is a wetland.


28 posted on 10/10/2012 8:25:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Beowulf

While the other posters seem to be for Walmart, I know how you feel. The local communities surrounding the proposed big box super center to stay open 24/7 was a big deal for us to.

You can find a Walmart in every direction within five miles. We did not want our area of Seminole County Florida to look like Colonial Dr. in Orlando. We all got together and fought hard at the City and County committees. This took a long time, but while they (Walmart) were hung up trying to convince the commissioners the positive influence this new store would provide, we protesters listed just as many or more negatives. After a year Walmart and their lawyers gave up. A nice Italian restaurant and several free standing banks and retail now occupy the land. The County/City realizing property values would decrease was probably the reason they sided with the residents!

You have to be persistent and get as many people and their signatures and attend every meeting. Once a permit is issued you are done! Best of luck!


29 posted on 10/10/2012 8:26:07 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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with much of what you say - I work to live honestly and freely! First, I have lived apart from the x for more than a year, but we have not done the legal necessities. Let me know if this is a disqualifier, and I will understand. Second, I need to get some new profile pictures. I don't look that old in person! uhg ... Anyway, it would be nice to hear from you one way or the other. Thanks. Robert

Run for office in the municipality and appoint your cronies to the planning board, so that the variance will not be granted. You will need about $15,000 to finance your campaign. So collect campaign contributions from the owners of small businesses. Then use the forces of government to prevent the free market from driving them out of business. It's the American way.

30 posted on 10/10/2012 8:26:44 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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Shop at Jim's Drugs instead

31 posted on 10/10/2012 8:27:17 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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Does any one have any experience or insight into fighting Walmart expansion that they would be willing to share?

Contact the Democrat Party, info Obama.

32 posted on 10/10/2012 8:28:26 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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We love our Super Center. Chances are they will close at least one of the other WMs. That’s what happened near us. There is still only 1 WM.


33 posted on 10/10/2012 8:32:43 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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NIMBY vs. Walmart? That’s an easy one.


34 posted on 10/10/2012 8:35:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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I’m not a fan of WalMart but I think people overestimate their power. In the city near me there is 1 WalMart and two Meijer stores. I prefer Meijer.


35 posted on 10/10/2012 8:36:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Any input would be appreciated.

I thought you were a conservative. Why do you oppose Walmart, too close to your home?

Walmart is OK, but NIMBY?

When it is finally built, will you drive the extra two miles or will you shop at the closer one?

If you don't like Walmart, don't shop there.

36 posted on 10/10/2012 8:36:00 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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” One can go in any direction from this spot and within two miles shop at an existing Walmart if one wanted to do so.”

Odd that they would want or need another. Looks to me like the market is already saturated......unless their goal is to take business from local grocery stores. Will this lower your property value to any serious degree? That is the only argument I can see that you have.


40 posted on 10/10/2012 8:38:16 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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Tell Jim Goodbye and write your obit bio for FR and say goodbye.

Then, join DU, Moveon and other liberal organizations.

Donate big to Obama and other haters of business.

Don’t bother to reply. At my age I have no time to waste on those who believe in chrony capitalism.


41 posted on 10/10/2012 8:38:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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In the 80s, Walmart became the 800 lb. gorilla.

Since then, they have grown.

The only way to stop their acquisition of land might be through the city council. Chances are slim.

Just because they acquire land does not necessarily mean that they are going to build there. Walmart is so massive that in the HQ, many times, the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing.


42 posted on 10/10/2012 8:38:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Nothing has stopped them so far.

Turned out, in Orlando at least, all the fears and hand wringing was pie in the sky. It has been a welcome addition to the food marketing scene for many lower income folks who need a bargain to get by.

Further re-zoning hasn't negatively affected the area around property on which they constructed the box.

44 posted on 10/10/2012 8:40:56 AM PDT by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
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I remember reading an article in Smithsonian magazine years ago about a town that faced the demise of their downtown due to the building of a Walmart nearby. I think the downtown shops got together and came up with ideas to strengthen the downtown shopping experience by making it a desirable place to shop in addition to Walmart. They emphasized uniqueness of products and personalized service.
45 posted on 10/10/2012 8:41:26 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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Free market capitalism is THE economy of free peoples.

If you don’t like it, move to Venezuela.

Conservatism supports free markets, as we support freedom, period.


46 posted on 10/10/2012 8:47:02 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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If the Walmart plans meet the existing zoning plans, leave them alone.

If they are looking for a special exemption on the zoning, which would cause traffic problems, then fight to make the zoning laws equally applied to everyone.

If you simply don’t like the idea of a new Walmart...then you are on the wrong forum.


49 posted on 10/10/2012 8:49:07 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I live in Tampa and am familiar with the Carrollwood area this is proposed for. The “2 miles north and south” is misleading since the street it is proposed for, Dale Mabry, is a heavily traveled north-south throughfare littered with traffic lights with 2-3 minute cycles (some even more, the further south you get). Those 2 miles, at rush hour, could easily take 15 minutes.

I know, as I live 2-3 miles from a Walmart in Tampa and would gladly have one closer. It can easily take me 15 minutes to get there during certain times of the day.

That being said, the Carrollwood area, and Tampa in general, isn’t exactly a beacon of “mom and pop” shops anyway, so what’s the big deal? Traffic? It won’t make it much worse than it already is.


50 posted on 10/10/2012 8:50:16 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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Who actually owns the property now? The former business? WalMart’s property-acquisition division? The city or county (picked up for unpaid property taxes, perhaps)?


53 posted on 10/10/2012 9:00:47 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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