Posted on 10/02/2012 10:10:13 AM PDT by not romney
Ok it all started when I harmlessly pointed out that Obama was up by two points in Rasmussen and five points in the Fox News poll. Then I get this twitter reply:
(Excerpt) Read more at rightwingwingnuts.blogspot.com ...
He’s our Toyota now.
I’d settle for a randomly picked U.S. citizen with at least a high school education.
You would still complain after getting what you requested.
These polls are very encouraging since the only way they can eek out a dubious lead for The Disaster is by grossly manipulating them. Even the rigged polls can’t predict a victory for The Disaster.
Romney will win in a landslide.
Prop up Reagan’s bones in the oval office and he would STILL make a better president than a living, breathing Obama....
I remember all thru the Reagan years how many conservatives complained and complained. "He didn't balance the budget, he didn't execute queers, he didn't abolish major government agencies, his cabinet was stuffed with tri-lat and nwo types, he didn't outlaw abortion, and on and on...".
Bill Clinton would be a more conservative choice.
Sick em.
The libs couldn't take one Reagan. Millions of Reagans would make them cr@p their levi's.
What seems to have caused you to excerpt this material?
Don't toss the 2010 results at me since there the Democrats proved they have 39 million voters available to our 44 million voters ~ for midterm elections.
We actually proved in 2004 that we had 63 million voters available, then a bunch of them disappeared. Not quite sure who they were.
The polls, though, are based on about a 9% response rate.
And that means they are no good as a guide to what we are doing ~ so stick with the election results over the last half century. They are a much better guide to the big picture.
Maybe, maybe not. But when you get a zonker behind door #1, you're willing to risk it for what's behind door #2 or #3 even sight unseen.
More defeatist crap. His “solution” is laughable.
You appear to be eager to stop the Republican nominee, but don't offer much in the way of alternatives.
Tell us, who's your guy come November 6?
Ok it all started when I harmlessly pointed out that Obama was up by two points in Rasmussen and five points in the Fox News poll. Then I get this twitter reply:
Wow. Let’s just skip the election! You probably watch MSNBC too, right? #pollworship
Now was it really necessary to be snippy right off the bat? I mean what ever happened to small talk? “You look like you have a nice follow through” or “I like your shoes” ya know, a few pleasantries. The MSNBC quip was a bit harsh but then to follow it up with the #pollworship dig was way over the top. Am I right? Do I look like a pollworshipper? C’mon. That was followed by:
“Polls are easily manipulated. Many polls in 1980 showed Carter ahead. They are meant to moralize opposition”
I think he meant ‘demoralize’ but I let it go because I knew what he meant and I didn’t want to come across as snippy. However I still had to point out the myth of the Reagan comeback, because it was just that, a myth. So I posted this article, “click here”
I don’t think John cared much for the article because of this:
“Gee, thanks. I’m just gonna not vote” to which I replied:
When u say “Gee, thanks. I’m just gonna not vote” do u mean I read it but it made me sad bc I don’t want 2 believe it’s true?
Ok I admit that might have come across as a bit snippy, but even someone as mild mannered as myself can only refrain from being snippy for so long.
The heat was turned up when he said something about feeling bad for my defeatist mentality and that the pollsters had me right where they wanted me. So now you’re probably thinking I lashed out with another snippy comment, but you’re wrong. I calmly said: we have a problem, ignoring it solves nothing. What’s sad is so many on my side act like dems. “Well my intentions were good, I tried”
The larger point I was trying to make is we have to defeat Obama. Our problem is Romney simply doesn’t have the skill set or the temperament to win. Simply crossing our fingers and closing our eyes is going to give us the same result as four years ago.
John told me to do something other than just complain. So then I got super snippy and said: “John, no offense but I’m going to put u in the click your heels twice, fairy dust, unicorn column, but again no offense.” Ok perhaps I’m not always so mild mannered. Especially seeing as how I followed up with: “so your plan is to ignore the polls, chant U-S-A, U-S-A, have i got that about right?
Now I have to admit John did respond with a good question. “Replace Romney with whom, the ghost of Reagan?” Granted I could have done without the ‘ghost of Reagan’ snark, but still a valid question. I said: “Romney should leave the campaign trail and turn it over to Ryan. After the election Romney steps down and Ryan picks a new VP.”
I’m serious. Four years ago we knew weeks before election day, it was over. We still have a month before judgement day. Are we really just going to sit quietly with our arms folded while we once again head over the cliff? We’ve been told for the last year and a half if Obama wins reelection we won’t survive. Was that just hyperbole or did you really mean it? Because if you really meant it, we do what ever it takes.
Things turned sour again when he went off on another ‘manipulation of polls’ rant and something about the evils of excess salt in our diet. I may have called him a half backed wackadoodle, I really don’t remember. But I do remember comparing him to an emotional former girlfriend, during that time of the month.
I also told him earlier in the day Rush Limbaugh was talking about republican enthusiasm being 16 points higher than that of the democrats. Listen to this Steve Deace interview of republican pollster Rick Shaftan. Rick says the exact opposite. “click here for audio”
The reply:
WI recall polls had Scott Walker down 8%. How’d that work out?
This is probably where we reached the point of no return. I said: “I don’t know why in the era of Google you think you can make shit up and get away with it.” PPP is a dem pollster, “click here”
Yup, a bridge too far. Perhaps I should have said ‘crap’ instead of ‘shit’. These were the last words I ever heard from John: “Go watch a skin vid, sir. I’m finished with you. Adios”
So what can we learn from this tragedy? First, relationships are hard. Second, if you’re headed over the same cliff four years in a row maybe it’s time to say: “AW HELL NO!!”
“Romney should leave the campaign trail and turn it over to Ryan. After the election Romney steps down and Ryan picks a new VP.”
“These polls are very encouraging since the only way they can eek out a dubious lead for The Disaster is by grossly manipulating them. Even the rigged polls can’t predict a victory for The Disaster.Romney will win in a landslide.”
no offense but I’m going to put u in the click your heels twice, fairy dust, unicorn column, but again no offense.
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