Obama and Hillary will be paying $70,000 to air apology commercials in the New York area.
I take it as a celebration of the "billion-dollar defame-Christ-for-profit" industry.
AFK for a bit. Have to find an embassy to storm.
That said, look at it artistically: he took a crucifix and pi**ed on it in a jar. Do I have that right? Where is the artistic ability behind the creator of the “artwork” being shown? That he can aim straight?
What if it was a bar of soap in a jar he pi**ed in? Artistic? Artistically pleasing? Intellectually stimulating? No, a stupid idea. He only got any attention because all of the non religious nut jobs gave him money from the NEA to denigrate Christianity. And how much money did he need to create this “genius” work? $5? He would have failed a community college art class with this abomination.
this is not newsworthy
There is - I think - a point to be made here. Piss Christ is not necessarily a profound theological work, but it can be used to illustrate a point that did not enter into the artist’s mind when he was making it.
To my chagrin, the thought I am about to present is not necessarily mine originally, so I will post the article from which I am taking this: http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-mocking-of-muhammad-and-condemning-of-christ
So many people look at their religion and see it as an unassailable monolith which has to be defended. That somehow blowing up cartoonists and buses or ramming planes into buildings is a defense of an omnipotent God.
Instead God has chosen Christ as an object of great humility. He is brought before the authorities and accused and convicted of a crime of which he is innocent. He is beaten, and spit upon and he is sentenced to death. It only follows that the “intellectuals” of our world would also see fit to defile his name, but Christ - like a sheep before its shearers - is silent. He is not haughty or proud. He is a sacrifice and the sins of us all are placed upon him and he is led up the mountain to die a humiliating death for our sins.
So when this world comes against us and persecutes us and accuses us of all sorts of evil because of him (Matt 5:11), we are in fact blessed for suffering with him. As he was a sacrifice, so we are called to take up our crosses and follow him and die a humiliating death to ourselves. (Matt 16:24)
The wisdom of this world seeks honor, but something that is different about Christianity is the emphasis on humility. This was so important that Paul wrote in his letter to the Galatians (2:20-21):
“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”
The truth is that seeking honor, or seeking salvation through works is ultimately fruitless. No amount of religiosity, martyrdom, piety, and generosity can save. The only thing that saves is the grace of God. We do not gain salvation by works, but it is the free gift to all who believe.
I don’t think the protestants of 400 years ago would have gotten all upset over the “P!$$ Christ” as they would have just considered it to be a piece of brass in urine, made to rile the Catholics.
I know Protestants today are getting riled over it,yet I just consider it to be a piece of brass in urine. You could submerge a plastic Barbie doll in it and call it the Madonna and some would get upset.
I know the moslems would go berzerk over a Ken doll with a beard representing mohammed in urine.
When you laugh at it and not let it upset you, it looses it’s power to offend and becomes...nothing.
Anyone have a problem posting on this thread? Several times I have hit the “Post Reply” button but it just brings the entire thread up again and not the “Posting Comment” page. It finally did open for me.
"challenging the values, perception, and definition of art. " --> nope, didn't challenge any of that for me. It's got nothing to do with values -- it's showing Andres' attempt to get shock value. Perception? Nah
Definition of art? Nah -- to me modern "art" isn't art and waste fluids and faesces are not art.