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Compare the candidates: Obama, Romney, Goode (Vanity)
Image: Virgil Goode for President Committee | September 2012 | Koinonia

Posted on 09/26/2012 12:35:05 PM PDT by koinonia

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To: JustSayNoToNannies

No, I’m saying that you’re thinking that the GOP candidate losing or voting for a third party historical accomplished what you think they will accomplish in the future.

Get the facts first, then distort them however you wish.

:)


201 posted on 09/27/2012 9:23:51 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Let’s try that again:

No. I’m saying that your thinking that the GOP candidate losing or voting for a third party did not accomplish in the past what you think they will accomplish in the future.

Get the facts first, then distort them however you wish.

:)


202 posted on 09/27/2012 9:25:26 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: MNJohnnie

See, I view your vote for Romney as “punting”.
I’m going for it on 4th and long!


203 posted on 09/27/2012 9:28:04 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: libdestroyer
I’m going for it on 4th and long!

That's not a bad thing to do, for sure, except if you're playing baseball

204 posted on 09/27/2012 9:30:18 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: MNJohnnie; koinonia

try this on for size:

Romans 13:1

“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. “

So according to the Bible, even Mr. Obama has been placed into power by God Himself. You and I live under an illusion that our vote is vitally important. If you lived under a dictator you’d likely have a different picture of God’s sovereignty.

Voting for Romney is essentially just polishing the deck on the Titanic... if it makes you feel better about yourself please feel free. It’s YOUR vote not mine.

Is it too much to ask for the same respect from those of you who are voting for Romney?


205 posted on 09/27/2012 9:33:25 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: D-fendr
I think my vote is better used in setting the stage for 2016

About as much as McCain's defeat set the stage for 2012. As much as voting for Perot in 1992 set the stage for Dole's nomination

Are you saying McLame and Herbie lost because not enough conservatives drank the GOPe Kool-Aid?

No. I’m saying that your thinking that the GOP candidate losing or voting for a third party did not accomplish in the past what you think they will accomplish in the future.

Ross Perot was not a conservative, so that's an irrelevant example. What conservative third party got a significant percentage of the vote in 2008?

206 posted on 09/27/2012 9:38:23 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: koinonia; libdestroyer

Romney or Obama will be the next President. Obama is pro gay marriage and pro taxpayer funded abortion on demand up to birth. Romney is not.

Re-elect Obama and in 4 years all the issues you social cons are so concerned about will be legislated. As Roe vrs Wade should of taught you it is much harder to overturn law then it is to stop it in the 1st place.

You have one last chance to stop the secular Left. And instead of grabbing it with both hands you are throwing it away in a fit of childish spite because your candidate of choice did not win the GOP nomination.

You can lie to yourself all you want about what spirit you are acting in here, God knows the truth.


207 posted on 09/27/2012 9:46:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Romney or Obama will be the next President. Obama is pro gay marriage and pro taxpayer funded abortion on demand up to birth. Romney is not.

He says he's not - at least not since 2002.

208 posted on 09/27/2012 10:10:01 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: libdestroyer

Look, Romney wasn’t my first choice, either, not even my second or third. I wanted Cain, then Santorum.

Howerver Romney is the nominee, and since the primary objective this time around is to get rid of the Kenyan Usurper, everyone should be willing to crawl over broken glass to vote for the only candidate who can do that. I get upset when people fail to see this simple logic.

Third party candidates never win, but can cause the guy who could stop Zero to lose. Primaries are for principles. The general election is when you support the nominee. This is not the election to send a message.

The problem with purists of any stripe is that they’d rather waste their vote on some nobody who has no chance of anything beyond being a spoiler, or stay home. Why not vote for the guy you agree 80%...or even 70% instead of waliting for your idea of perfection? Throwing your vote away on this nobody only guarantees the guy you agree with 0% will win.

Does this upset me? Yeah. The economy needs fixed. I’m seeing my resources taking major hits because of it, and I get offended when people jeopardize that.

Have you ever learned to be a team player?


209 posted on 09/27/2012 10:10:09 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I reject your “logic” and remind you that my vote doesn’t belong to the GOP. Therefore voting for Goode is NOT a vote lost for Romney. It’s simply a vote Romney never had.

You vote the way you want. I’m 100% comfortable with my choice.


210 posted on 09/27/2012 10:19:04 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

You really think Virgil has the slightest chance to receive “a significant percentage of the vote in 2008.” A single electoral vote?

Really? Enough to wager on it? I’ll give you very heavy odds.


211 posted on 09/27/2012 11:29:50 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Ross Perot was not a conservative, so that's an irrelevant example. What conservative third party got a significant percentage of the vote in 2008?

You really think Virgil has the slightest chance to receive “a significant percentage of the vote in 2008.”

I don't know the numerical value that will be significant in the current context - evidently substantially higher than what was achieved in 1992 or 2008.

Does Goode have a chance to get that percentage, whatever it is? I don't know - but I do know that every single vote gets him closer.

A single electoral vote?

Highly unlikely.

212 posted on 09/27/2012 11:59:35 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

“Significant” in this context means enough to have the effect you desire or any effect. Perot got 10% with no discernable effect on either party or even on a re-run.

So what is significant in this context for Virgil? Would 5% be significant? Do you think he will get 5%?


213 posted on 09/27/2012 12:10:17 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Sorry, should be:

Perot got 19% with no discernible future effect on either party or even on a re-run.


214 posted on 09/27/2012 12:13:05 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
“Significant” in this context means enough to have the effect you desire or any effect. Perot got 10% with no discernable effect on either party or even on a re-run.

Already addressed: "Ross Perot was not a conservative, so that's an irrelevant example."

So what is significant in this context for Virgil?

Already answered: "I don't know the numerical value that will be significant in the current context - evidently substantially higher than what was achieved in 1992 or 2008."

215 posted on 09/27/2012 12:17:01 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: All

Is there any reason we can’t all agree on the value of voting for Goode (or Johnson or whoever) at least in states where it would have no chance of affecting the election’s outcome (hard red or hard blue)?


216 posted on 09/27/2012 12:18:35 PM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: Sloth; D-fendr; Emperor Palpatine; MNJohnnie; humblegunner; UltraV; GlockThe Vote; JayGalt
Is there any reason we can’t all agree on the value of voting for Goode (or Johnson or whoever) at least in states where it would have no chance of affecting the election’s outcome (hard red or hard blue)?

Pinging the Romney supporters for their thoughts.

217 posted on 09/27/2012 12:29:42 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Define “Romney Supporter”.


218 posted on 09/27/2012 12:32:10 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: humblegunner
Is there any reason we can’t all agree on the value of voting for Goode (or Johnson or whoever) at least in states where it would have no chance of affecting the election’s outcome (hard red or hard blue)?

Pinging the Romney supporters for their thoughts.

Define “Romney Supporter”.

For purposes of Sloth's question, anyone who plans to vote for Romney in November.

219 posted on 09/27/2012 12:41:44 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

You just keep on NOT HELPING to remove Obama.

Be proud of that in the future. You “sent a message” and “set the stage”.

Powerful stuff, that.


220 posted on 09/27/2012 12:43:02 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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