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Prosecutors: Keep Trayvon Martin's school records secret
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | September 20, 2012 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 09/20/2012 12:40:38 PM PDT by Uncle Chip

SANFORD - Prosecutors in the George Zimmerman case suggest defense attorney Mark O'Mara is trying to "chum the waters" by digging up Trayvon Martin's school disciplinary records.

In a new pleading, they ask the judge to seal whatever those records show and in the future to keep O'Mara's subpoenas a secret.

O'Mara is entitled to go on a fishing expedition to find out about Trayvon's past, according to court paperwork filed Wednesday by Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda, but "he is not allowed to chum the waters and then, by innuendo or otherwise, to publish irrelevant items (such as the aforementioned subpoenas) to the media in an attempt to influence public perception or otherwise curry favor with potential jurors."

>snip<

He accused O'Mara of using his law firm's website to publicize the subpoena and implied O'Mara was trying to damage Trayvon's reputation.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: martin; trayvon; zimmerman
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To: wtc911
I have seen video of TM “boxing” in the yard wering pink gloves. When I was a kid many of us were encouraged to learn how to defend ourselves by our parents. Part of that was boxing in the yard...how were you raised...roll over or defend yourself?

So, you haven't seen the Trayvon Fight Club videos, and you're accusing Zimmerman of a history of violence.

Interesting.

81 posted on 09/21/2012 5:46:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Beach_Babe
When we were young, we used to wonder how the German people could have been so deluded before WWII.

I don't wonder any more. I know how.

82 posted on 09/21/2012 5:50:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil
Post links to TM fighting in Fight Club videos. The one you linked to before was taken down but the comment by the guy who put it up stating that you could not tell if it even was TM is still there.

And, I didn't accuse GZ of violence --- Veronica Zuazo, the girlfriend he slapped around, did - twice. Oh, and the cops he assaulted did.

83 posted on 09/21/2012 5:52:31 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Beach_Babe; editor-surveyor

“The record shows that Zimmerman was roughed up by an overzealous LEO, and defended himself, and the case was dropped when Zimmerman agreed not to sue.”


84 posted on 09/21/2012 5:53:14 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: wtc911; TigersEye; Lazamataz
Trolling, trolling, trolling, keep wtc trolling, RAW LIES!

We've all seen Trayvon's Fight Club videos. He was a violent punk.

Oh, and the cops he assaulted did.

The mere existence of a peasant is an assault on a cop. It's the death penalty for the peasant's dog.

85 posted on 09/21/2012 5:58:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Well you know JBTs and former JBT must stick together.


86 posted on 09/21/2012 6:08:55 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Elendur

-— it’s Marinade Dave, not Marina Dave and his article was more than funny. KAPOW!

marina: a dock for boats
marinade: a liquid for soaking food before cooking


87 posted on 09/21/2012 7:22:46 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Uncle Chip
Well it sounds like according to you that each have enough in their backgrounds to cancel each other out.

Actually, no. One is an adult, one was a child.

Zimmerman’s credibility is the key to his defense. He lacks credibility yet pointing out specifics is a 'no-no' here where his supporters take his word as gospel.

This is a discussion site and that’s the reason I’m here. Any thread gets really boring when everyone agrees and just posts the same thing over and over again --- fight-club video, gold-toothed thug, pot-smoking gangsta-wannabe --- with never any dissention, questions, or disagreement allowed.

Trayvon was suspicious because he ran, Trayvon was suspicious because he didn't run fast enough, Trayvon should have run all the way home, Trayvon had no business even being on that property, Trayvon shouldn't have been allowed to go to the store, Trayvon shouldn't have been allowed to have a phone --- there’s no reason to keep reading threads where everyone believes the same way.

If I disagree, post respectfully, make valid points, or ask valid questions, everyone panics, rushes to push the abuse button to have my post removed, and calls me names.

Bullies, ya are --- just like your hero.

88 posted on 09/21/2012 7:29:07 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: kiryandil

bwahaha


89 posted on 09/21/2012 7:33:02 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: kiryandil
“The record shows that Zimmerman was roughed up by an overzealous LEO, and defended himself, and the case was dropped when Zimmerman agreed not to sue.”


That's incorrect ---

In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar. It was a first offense, and Zimmerman got off with a pretrial anger management diversion program.

Charges: ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL

1. CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE ..............843.01 .................Third Degree - Felony 07/16/2005

2. BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ..............784.07(2)(B)........ .Third Degree - Felony 07/16/2005

Video with David Chico, the lead prosecutor on the case, here.

90 posted on 09/21/2012 7:45:00 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
Actually, no. One is an adult, one was a child.

Not a child -- a teenager with the liver of a 50 year old from something he was consuming.

Zimmerman’s credibility is the key to his defense.

Actually no -- the forensic evidence, the witnesses, the autopsy, the photographs, the police investigations, the medical reports are all key to his defense and they speak for themselves and all agree with his statements already given under oath.

This is a discussion site and that’s the reason I’m here. Any thread gets really boring when everyone agrees and just posts the same thing over and over again --- fight-club video, gold-toothed thug, pot-smoking gangsta-wannabe --- with never any dissention, questions, or disagreement allowed.

I am offended, Babe. I have been nothing but respectful of you and your posts. I read them faithfully and diligently to glean all the facts that can be found there, though I have to look hard for them.

If I disagree, post respectfully, make valid points, or ask valid questions, everyone panics, rushes to push the abuse button to have my post removed, and calls me names.

I was even upset when your rant was removed the other day. I was so looking forward to spending an afternoon with it absorbing the aroma of Axiom Amnesia, and tasting the middle earthly delights of Justice Quest. BTW you don't know someone named cecelia or rachel do you. They've been mimicking your linguistic style on other sites???

Trayvon was suspicious because he ran, Trayvon was suspicious because he didn't run fast enough, Trayvon should have run all the way home, Trayvon had no business even being on that property, Trayvon shouldn't have been allowed to go to the store, Trayvon shouldn't have been allowed to have a phone --- there’s no reason to keep reading threads where everyone believes the same way.

Well, Babe, there is only one way that things happened that night and we are trying to find that one way without going on your rabbit chases. Is there something wrong with that???

Bullies, ya are --- just like your hero.

Anyway I'll bet they're all excited about all that Trayvon material that will be coming out soon with new pictures of Trayvon -- and his middle finger. I'll bet you just can't wait???

91 posted on 09/21/2012 8:07:32 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Beach_Babe
If you flick a piece of dandruff on a "Lore Enfarcement Ossifer", it's a "felony".

Pull the other one.

92 posted on 09/21/2012 9:31:11 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Beach_Babe
Bullies, ya are --- just like your hero.

Trayvon isn't our hero....

93 posted on 09/21/2012 9:32:53 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: wtc911

>And, I didn’t accuse GZ of violence -— Veronica Zuazo, the girlfriend he slapped around, did - twice.

Considering that they both had restraining orders against each other, if I’m not mistaken, it was likely a he said she said situation.

>Oh, and the cops he assaulted did.

editor-surveyor stated the following: “The record shows that Zimmerman was roughed up by an overzealous LEO, and defended himself, and the case was dropped when Zimmerman agreed not to sue.


94 posted on 09/22/2012 12:03:27 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: editor-surveyor; wtc911; Jim Robinson
“ I am merely here to note that wtc911 is Free Republic’s Race Troll.” I hate to have to correct you bro, but WTC911 is in every way a troll here. If he posts, it is trolling.

Well then, why is he here? JimRob swats trolls well, even old timers.

I have to agree with you, editor-surveyor.

95 posted on 09/22/2012 5:50:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: kiryandil
Trolling, trolling, trolling, keep wtc trolling, RAW LIES!

Don't feed the trolls. Just note that he is Free Republic's Race Troll everywhere you see him, and move on.

96 posted on 09/22/2012 5:52:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: TigersEye; wtc911; Jim Robinson
I don't know why he's still here after making that post you linked to.

It was unacceptable. I sent private PM's to Admin and Sidebar, Sidebar reviewed the thread and said it was wrong. I had been, as is usual by wtc911, accused of racism baselessly, and wtc911 would not defend his claims when challenged. He's a race troll. He just puts out the charge and takes some sort of perverse glee in your reaction. It took me a bit, but I have him sussed now.

Jim hasn't seen the thread yet. Jim, it starts at this comment I made to him.

97 posted on 09/22/2012 5:57:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: wtc911

Don’t worry about me. Worry about YOU.


98 posted on 09/22/2012 5:59:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: Lazamataz; Jim Robinson
Gee Laz, how about telling the trut? The thread that has you so bent out of shape started with my objection to this line in the original post...

"Sometimes it's hard to see past the blackness: we do have a tendency to assume all black males are high testosterone potential rapists."

Maybe there are freepers who agree and are part of the "WE" who assume "all black males are high testosterone potential racists."

I am not one of them. I know naked racism when I see it and I called it out. You didn't write the post but you defended the post. Fine, but when you jump in that mud puddle some of it will stick to you.

The standards that Jim set for FR include "no racism". If that has changed then I think it's up to Jim to make the announcement.

The rules also include no personal attacks but I guess "bitch" and "moron" don't count since you feel free to use them against me. That doesn't bother me and it's fine with me if you keep it up as you stalk me from thread to thread but it does kind of break the rules that you are so anal about.

As for your pronounced intention to stalk me from thread to thread - keep right on doing it --- but be careful, it could prove addictive and you want to be careful about that.

JR, apologies for taking your time but laz chose to pull you in. Lots of long time freepers have objected openly and in back channel about the rise in racism on the forum, usually over the Zimmerman/Martin thing. Some of it is just ugly (as in this case). It is as though some folks want to give ammunition to those who declare FR a hate site.

When I see it I attack it, as in this case.

It is obvious that some freepers want a free hand to post what they want and so label any voice opposing the racism as a troll. Based on the like-minded crew that Laz has developed by following me around and posting the same "ignore him - he's nothing but a race baiting troll" post, but there are not many of them and their insults don't bother me.

Finally, do you want your forum to be a place where posts like ----

"Sometimes it's hard to see past the blackness: we do have a tendency to assume all black males are high testosterone potential rapists" ---

are defended and permitted to stand but objections to them are deleted? Because right now, that's how it is.

99 posted on 09/22/2012 7:35:51 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911
The standards that Jim set for FR include "no racism". If that has changed then I think it's up to Jim to make the announcement.

You are a Racism troll, aren't you? The sly little implications that Free Republic is raciss, and the interminable blathering justifications for your trolling.

I agree with Laz.

100 posted on 09/22/2012 8:31:00 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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