Posted on 09/17/2012 6:42:28 PM PDT by sirchtruth
The Colorado climber criticized for abandoning his injured dog on a mountain has agreed to give up custody of the dog to one of its rescuers.
Anthony Ortolani, 29, originally said he wanted custody of his dog Missy when she was rescued by a team of hikers after surviving eight days on the mountain. Since then, Ortolani has received intense criticism and even death threats over his decision.
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If I went up a mountain with my dog or my woman, no way would I come down without them!
Period! NUFF SAID!
“The guy just left her for dead when the government wouldn’t go get her for him”
This. The true individualists were the ones who went up and rescued the dog anyway.
Any Freepers among the rescuers?
death threats over his decision.
What’s this about? I read this crap all the time. Are Americans rag head jihadists now?
I wish the authorities would decide whether dogs are chattel or sentient beings. If they are chattel, the guy should not only walk, he shouldn’t be prosecuted at all. If, on the other hand, they are sentient beings, then not only should the book be thrown at this guy, but also there are an awful lot of cops who should face equal charges for shooting family dogs for no reason, (not all of which were fatal shots ... in case the cruelty angle is important here). Whatever the decision is (and I do have a preference) it should be consistently applied to everyone.
You know, the guy did nothing. He called “the authorities” and when they wouldn’t carry the load he gave up. As I recall the bits I originally read he then spent his time feeling real bad, about his dog, who was dying of starvation and dehydration on a mountain he brought her to.
Other people, who just encountered the dog by happenstance didn’t ask Big Sis to help them, they helped themselves and the poor, helpless dog.
And saved the animal’s life.
I don’t get at all what you mean about “collectivism”, to me the people who saved the dog showed the true American way of self-reliance, true community action and charity.
The original owner is just a lazy, self-pitying slob who gave up any moral claim to this animal when he left it to die FOR EIGHT DAYS on a mountain, a mountain I repeat that HE BROUGHT HER TO.
And you know what, I don’t even like dogs.
But, it was I who made hubby stop the truck when we saw two dogs (obviously escaped from their home/yard) jumping through traffic. Luckily a cop showed up and they knew the dogs and were taking them home. And yes, I’m no animal rights nut, animals are chattel, they are property, but they are living beings and when you leave them to die, you leave your claim to them also.
God bless those people who saved this dog, I hope they have many happy years together. To the original owner I suggest, get a cat, they can take care of themselves.
“...what kinda of dangerous situation would have prevented them from carrying the dog all the way down with them?”
Ok, at the first I guess there was some storm or something. But later the far more dangerous situation of laziness and victimology set in. The cops won’t help me, my dog is dying, it’s not my fault, I’m a victim, it’s bush’s fault, obama’s fault, woe is me!
This is the truly dangerous mindset that we saw on full display during hurricane katrina and with which the democratic party seeks to infect us all.
I’m helpless, I’m hopeless, Nothing is my responsibility!
It is THIS ATTITUDE that is going to destroy America.
As I said in my other post, animals ARE chattel but they are also living beings. I’m not sure about the definition of “sentient” but they are alive. And yes, cops who kill family pets should certainly be brought under greater scrutiny that if they shot up your couch. I actually think all this is encompassed in the word “chattel” but I could be wrong.
This man did not take a lot of responsibility for his dog. I think a prior poster made a good point as to abandoned property.
Should he have been prosecuted, I don’t know, but he had a HELL of a lot of nerve to expect the animal to be returned to him.
I actually think this is a rather important story in terms of what it says about our country.
We should probably be thankful that those who rescued the poor dog weren’t charged with some crime.
Remember the California public servants who let the man drown because, I don’t remember why. Here’s the link:
Our country is dying, like an abandoned dog.
How can we be saved?
Did you read the link to the 14ers thread?
Several people posted near the end, claiming to be friends, family and even the supervisor of the dog’s former owner (Personally, I suspect it was the dog’s owner, trying to save face on an Internet forum).
But even if his friends/relatives/supervisor are who they claimed to be, the fact that he NEVER asked them for help in retrieving his dog, but was willing to ask them to help him “save face” on a forum, is telling.
Priorities.
He has them backwards.
He expected government employees to rescue his dog, and when they did not, he did *nothing*.
The true heroes, rebuffed by the same government employees, rolled up their sleeves and *searched*.
Damn sure wouldn’t come down w/out the dog. /sarc
Seriously, pets in my house are part of the family, just not a human part of the family. But still family. Two rules. We don’t leave family behind. We don’t eat family.
Good news for the dog, this guy didn’t deserve it.
Most assuredly! You've nailed it!
Right, I agree. This man has no business asking for this dog when he left her for 8 days on that mountain to die.
Also, I noted that in the initial photo of the dog, the dog was not equipped in such a way as to protect the soft padding of her feet on the mountain. Another shot of another owner and their dog who summited and descending safely clearly show the proper footgear for a dog on a rough mountain trail.
There are many things to be concerned about regarding the owner and proper treatment of the dog.
And yes, the biggest question is "Why weren't they back up that trail the next safe window for climing?"
In his mind, she was dead already.
I think you went off the deep end.
A dog is more than mere private property, it is a living sentient creature put here by God to be a loyal companion.
So take your insane accusations of collectivism elsewhere. You’re selling crazystupid, and none of us are buying.
Taking your dog on a dangerous mountain climbing trip is insane anyway. The guy has the common sense of an amoeba.
Look, buddy.
If someone tried to hurt my dog, they just might get shot.
And I aim for the forehead.
Some humans aren’t worth the life of a dog. Understand?
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