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The man that is helping to produce strong conservatives. On radio for 52 years!
fhu ^ | 09/16/12 | fabian

Posted on 09/16/2012 11:52:44 AM PDT by fabian

Now celebrating 52 years of helping people on the radio! For over half a century Roy Masters has been helping people overcome their most difficult problems. As the nation’s first and longest running radio counselor, Roy Masters has advised callers with a unique ability to hear inner problems, heal fears and sexual stresses, and help people take charge of their own lives. Great show and exactly what the world needs! Here is a radio show stations page... http://www.fhu.com/radiostations.html


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: conservative; cults; deception; roymasters; selfhelp; stress; talkradio
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To: Godzilla; boatbums; Elsie

There is a real lack of balance objectivity to say the least:

At best, he [man] let's his wife ruin his kids, sitting like a rooster on a perch, as " Mr. nice guy." Defiled by her love, he becomes an impossible, spoiled, conceited, selfish, irresponsible, violent and rebellious swine... It is through man's use of woman that Hitler's rise in hell on earth begins.. (The Adam and Eve Sindrome, p. 116; The Adam and Eve Sindrome http://books.google.com/books?id=t8CDhiLT1-QC&q=+++would+have+had+sexual+feeling+dog#v=onepage&q=would%20have%20had%20sexual%20feeling%20dog&f=false )

You can be saved from original sin, the original hypnosis through which originated your hell on earth. The Adam and Eve Sindrome (ibid p. 118)

Because of original sin, are very man has a woman in him through his mother. (ibid p. 119)

And while God made them "male and female" in Gn. 1:26, Masters teaches that, Adam,

came away from under the Creator's command and became subject to the lie in the woman, who became female through being excited by Adams failing...

Because Adam allowed his ego to be led by the "serpent" in Eve all men function on the basis of feeling from the woman... ( (How to Control Your Emotions, p. 68,69; http://books.google.com/books?id=gIuLW4qVeR0C&pg=PP7&lpg=PP7&dq=roy+Masters,+How+to+Control+Your+Emotions&source=bl&ots=Z4lqaLePer&sig=oqZci-c_55GeymAXEC24yHp8GtM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=axZnUJX_LITH0QHG5IHICQ&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=wordless%20Truth%20&f=false)

And as the basis for doctrine is what comes into his head via his meditation, he is free to redefine what the Bible means to fit his doctrine:

The Bible also affirms that faith without works is dead. The meaning of the statement should be perfectly clear by now, but in case it is not, let me restate it: if you respond, obey or follow what is privately revealed to you each moment, you will be led away from temptation and delivered from evil. (ibid p. 74)

And engaging in more redefinitions, he states,

The Bible tells us that salvation comes by the word, and the word comes by hearing. The inward revealed word of God is needed to cancel the incoming suggestions that reinforce the serpent nature concealed in your nature. (The Adam and Eve Sindrome, p. 117)

The last quote is consistent with the premise that it is your subjective revelations, which are not a result of prayerfully considering context, linguistics, genre, etc. with the intent to obey God, but the revelations one gets while engaging in Masters mind-numbing meditation, with its looking through the middle of your forehead and hand-raising, possible cold shivers and change in bowel movements, etc., and which "understanding" is considered to be supreme, as we have seen expressed here, and those who honestly disagree on exegetical grounds are blithely dismissed as the unenlightened.

And did you know that the forbidden fruit was a drug, and that “sex is the first temptation awakened by the temptation of food.”

And,

“Is there any doubt that your destiny is being formed - with your will being controlled - through what you eat?

(”Eat no evil,” p. 49,50; http://books.google.com/books?id=sKq8xme52vEC&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq=roy+masters+denies+hell&source=bl&ots=8Qo1GRR5yM&sig=vXsAvZXuEUaQUFfAwoVDssh9uEE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3KFZUJuvO7O60QGnpYHgCg&ved=0CKIBEOgBMBc#v=onepage&q=roy%20masters%20denies%20hell&f=false)

The more we see of Masters the more damning evidence we get of his cultic false gospel, mixed with some helpful truth.

581 posted on 09/29/2012 12:36:06 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Elsie; boatbums; mitch5501; smvoice; Springfield Reformer; Godzilla; CynicalBear; metmom; ...

And didn’t Joe just use a seer stone in a hat to get some of his “revelation,” but no looking through the middle of your forehead and hand-raising, and or feeling your hand is detached, and or as though you were wearing a tight skullcap, and or possible cold shivers, labored or heavy breathing, and or that your body had melted into the universe and become “one” with all nature, evidencing an energy value originating within you, or of stimulation, almost like that provided by a shot of brandy, and hearing a audible voice.., leading you back to your inner self. (see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=569#569)

No wonder Masters is against chapter and verse type of Biblical examination. The Bereans were supposed to get into his mediation!


582 posted on 09/29/2012 12:52:46 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; boatbums; Elsie; fabian
The inward revealed word of God is needed to cancel the incoming suggestions that reinforce the serpent nature concealed in your nature.

Discussions of 'serpent natures' are extremely common through out eastern mysticism and mediations. master's lies about his meditation not being eastern based - yet he uses the same termology throughout his writings and talks.

583 posted on 09/29/2012 2:09:27 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Godzilla

well, you can say a lie as many times as you wish. People can see the YouTube posted for themselves and not have to take your jaded word for it...thank God! eastern meditations are very much mantra based, not so at all with the Be Still.


584 posted on 09/29/2012 2:54:18 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: Elsie

That is quite a meditation!


585 posted on 09/29/2012 3:04:13 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Godzilla; Elsie; boatbums

Eastern religion is not my field, but i know that the aforementioned exercises are not of Scripture and God.

And there is more. Going on from,

Bear in mind that the hand-raising feature of the meditation exercises is only a means to an end. The process of imagery is designed to inaugurate a chain reaction of responses touched off by conscious awareness. When your hand begins to rise, it is evidence of an energy value originating within you. But once you discover that by concentration through the middle of your forehead you can affect bodily responses, then imagery is no longer necessary.

Masters goes on to say,

Just being aware of the patterns of light and color that you see in your mind, and projecting them into the tingling of your hands, is all that is necessary....The patterns of light are etheric “computer” data that replace the lying imagination and its excuse-making proclivities. They effect every cell and nerve fiber in your being. They are the reverse of light waves of environmental pressure that affect your body adversely. As they reverse the negative effects of pressure, they impart an intelligent pattern of enfoldment. (How Your Mind Can Keep You Well, The object of meditation)

I see that “etheric” has to do with Theosophy, which is considered a part of the broader field of esotericism, referring to hidden knowledge or wisdom that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation.

During the Renaissance, use of the term diverged to refer to gnostic knowledge that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation through a knowledge of the bonds that are believed to unite her or him to the world of divine or intermediary spirits. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy

And which occultism certainly applies to Masters, while salvific Biblical repentance and faith and regeneration is contrary to the false gospel of Masters, who fishes off the Christian pier with a mixture of truth and critical error, enticing souls to buy his meditations (thus providing his income), and which opens on up to the occult.


586 posted on 09/29/2012 3:41:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

As I wrote before....some are true quotes and make perfect sense, while others are just plainly false. As an example...
“Under which you realize esoteric understanding independent of the Scripture, and then the Bible can mean whatever you think it means in confirming what you already concluded,”
That does not sound like you Roy at all because he certainly knows that there is an objective truth and the entire idea of the Be Still is to come out of lala land, out of thoughts and fantasies so that the Holy spirit can truly lead us. And just because the exact exercise is not in the bible does not make it good. This is very much what some of the quote dealt with that you cannot come to terms with, that it is not the written word that is the really important thing, but rather the holy spirit that is the director of those words. You are like totally extremely and word fixated so you cannot really grow spiritually. And you are very rote/ rigid which makes you dry and dull.


587 posted on 09/29/2012 4:17:34 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: daniel1212

This is what the Be Still is...
http://youtu.be/oJrtH4Uy5R4


588 posted on 09/29/2012 4:19:52 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: Godzilla

and the serpent is also common in the book of Genesis...daaa!


589 posted on 09/29/2012 4:21:28 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: daniel1212

And that melting into and becoming one with the universe is not Roy...he knows we do not become one with the universe...that is new age stuff and Roy is most definitely not new age.


590 posted on 09/29/2012 4:22:58 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: daniel1212
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20)
591 posted on 09/29/2012 4:30:06 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Elsie

Noooooooooo!!!! Not my Bucky!?


592 posted on 09/29/2012 4:34:26 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: fabian
It and he are not what you guys have put forth.

WE have to 'put forth' nothing other than HIS OWN WORDS.

They are the things condemning him.

593 posted on 09/29/2012 5:16:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: smvoice; daniel1212; boatbums; mitch5501; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie

I haven’t had time to get involved this summer but I truly appreciate the pings. This Roy Masters guy is just another cult leader in a long list of those we have seen followers promote here. While I haven’t had time to respond I do read the pings and try to keep up. Keep up the good work. Hopefully as we get this new place of ours more set up I can relax a little and get more involved again. I can truly see God is guiding each of you.

BTW Hope each of you have seen that metmom is in the hospital and needs our prayers.


594 posted on 09/29/2012 5:18:02 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: fabian
People can see the YouTube posted for themselves and not have to take your jaded word for it...thank God!

And people can look ujp Masters' own publications (the page numbers are given) to see how HIS word copndemns him.

595 posted on 09/29/2012 5:19:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

We’ll see MORE of his testimony tomorrow; and in COLOR, too!


596 posted on 09/29/2012 5:21:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fabian
and the serpent is also common in the book of Genesis...daaa!

So your master wants you to get in touch with your inner demon - not surprising given the eastern mystical sources of his teaching.

597 posted on 09/29/2012 5:46:31 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Elsie

Actually not..there are others words too. If you want his words you should go to fhu.com or hear him on youtube. But you don’t really care about the truth here. You only want to paint him as a nut..that is all. I know who I am dealing with here and it is not a kind, honest person or even someone who wants to be. You only want to be right, that is all.


598 posted on 09/29/2012 6:31:17 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: Godzilla

oh brother...really stupid now. You cannot even figure what I meant there? Good heavens....


599 posted on 09/29/2012 6:32:46 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: CynicalBear; metmom
Oh no :( I had not seen that metmom is in the hospital. Prayers up for her and her family. I haven't been on the forum posting lately either. Just a few posts, but I have been reading all others and trying to keep up. My husband passed away from the JC Viral infection he contracted. I now know what it truly means to KNOW spiritually that we WILL see each other again, but the outer man still suffers the day to day missing of my life partner. It truly feels as if half of me is missing.

Metmom, you are in my thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery. And all of you in the body of Christ are continually in my prayers. God Bless you all. Maranatha! smvoice

600 posted on 09/29/2012 7:19:05 PM PDT by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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