Posted on 09/14/2012 4:31:38 PM PDT by Kartographer
As a recently-retired physician who is married to a nurse-midwife, my preparedness group looks to us as the post-TEOTWAWKI hospital and medical staff. Medical progress has been exponential and even just the last decade of scientific breakthroughs can equal a century of improvement in medical treatments, surgical techniques and pharmaceuticals. However, in the years (months?) ahead, the crumbling of the infrastructure and devolution of society in general will very likely throw us back to a medical system that existed in the 19th Century.
Let’s take an example: When the U.S. was a young nation, the average woman could expect to be pregnant 10-12 times during her reproductive lifetime (no reliable means of birth control). One out of four women would not survive the pregnancy, either from issues relating to blood loss from miscarriage or childbirth or Infection (no antibiotics) following same. A myriad of other complications occurred which are treatable today but weren’t back then. I collect old medical books, and even relatively modern obstetric textbooks devoted entire chapters on how to crush a fetus’ skull in order to expedite its removal from a critically ill mother, with instruments that clearly had no other purpose. When childbirth was successful, she could expect perhaps 3-4 of her children to survive to become adults, on average, with many minor children succumbing to simple infections that had no known effective treatment at the time.
This is the grim reality that we, in modern times, will face when the inevitable happens and current medical technology and treatments are unavailable to us.
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Beer is natural. Your accusations of healthy eating being a “fetish” certainly is quite damn offensive.
Cigarettes and other tobacco products effect the taste buds. So I’m quite sure I enjoy my food and beer more than you.
I use napalm
Horse crap. All sugars, including honey are processed, if nothing else, to get out the larva.
Salt? Much salt in pre-roman and roman times was cut from dried lake beds in the middle east or mined from salt deposits in the middle east. WTF do you think salt comes from? Besides dissolved in water and deposited in beds?
Do you have another source for salt? Sodium Chloride?
/johnny
/johnny
“All sugars, including honey are processed, if nothing else, to get out the larva. “
Your food prep background is showing. Real honey can be purchased which is not processed.
Drop it Johnny, other people know stuff as well
Because, even dealing with some primitive folks, they strained their honey.
/johnny
Nope. I'll continue to point and laugh at food fetishists. I've outlived several.
/johnny
You’re in the food industry, you should know what the definition of food processing.
Yes you think you know everything, we realize that.
If sold in the US, it is generally pasturized as well.
Neat thing, pasturization. Keeps folks alive.
Garum is also processed, but you might consider it natural. You might not eat it, though. Nuc maam is another name for it.
/johnny
They know. They make YouTube videos about it.
They are better than I am, because they don't eat Monsanto GM products (except they do, they just don't know).
/johnny
Check the FDA definition. Raw products are not considered processed.
It certainly is processed.
I've got that FDA document (updated).
The reason that calling food fetishists out on their food fetish is annoying to fetishists... is that they have to admit that they are.
It's a multi-billion dollar industry.
I understand your anger, irrational as it is.
Don't worry about it. We all wind up as worm dirt, eventually.
/johnny
Bumpity bump. They work. My fish are all healthy in a community where it can take 2 weeks to get in to a regular doctor.
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Tetra cycline is one antibiotic that DOES have shelf life. becomes TOXIC after time. the rest do not. warning on this one
Refined salt is processed at high temperatures, removing the beneficial trace minerals, is 97.5 % sodium chloride and approx. 2.5% anti caking chemical additives witha little iodine.
Unrefined salt is 84% sodium chloride with calcium, magnesium and essential trace minerals.
I guess you’ve never heard of the Himalayan mountain deposits.
Honey is filtered not processed. Pure honey that is. Yes, it is also pre digested which is why you can’t give it to infants. The processed stuff has corn and canola oils in it.
I mostly use “Real Salt” or Himalayan salt. I can’t stand the other kind. If I have to use the other kind I use canning salt as it has no additives. I can taste the difference; haven’t had “Morton” type salt of years, it tastes very awful.
Honey is processed. That's what filtering is.
I've heard of all of the food fetishists crazy stuff. Sometimes I ignore it. Sometimes, I point and laugh at fools wasting money.
Down deep inside, at the cellular level, your body doesn't care if the sodium chloride you ate on your free range eggs came from the Himalayan mountains, or out of the back yard, because, face it, that's where all salt starts. In dirt.
johnny
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