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Swordfighting: Not What You Think It Is (Medieval Swordfighting Much Different than in the Movies)
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| June 12, 2012
| John Clements
Posted on 08/23/2012 9:52:00 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
To borrow a famous line, the problem with most people trying to understanding the true nature of historical sword combat is not that they're ignorant it's just that they know so much that isn't so.
It's amazing, really, how a subject that so permeates our modern pop culture, and is so ubiquitous, is one which virtually no one any longer has any real world experience in, nor pursues for its original function. As a result, most all our conceptions of sword-fighting get it wrong. The reality of it is not what you think it is.
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It goes without saying that popular culture today, including the closet-industry of self-certifying professional stunt fencers whose job it is to fake fights for movies and television, have no real clue as to what actual bladed combat was really like. I had a feeling that movie swordfighting was way too "gentlemanly."
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posted on
08/23/2012 9:52:07 PM PDT
by
PJ-Comix
To: PJ-Comix
"Tis but a scratch!"
To: PJ-Comix
I had a feeling that movie swordfighting was way too "gentlemanly." Especially when the hero narrowly escapes being killed by his adversary, averting death at the last possible moment. But when he has disarmed his opponent, the hero shows mercy and spares his life. I wonder how often that happened.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:04:07 PM PDT
by
luvbach1
(Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
To: PJ-Comix
Yep. Get it done quickly.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:06:10 PM PDT
by
PA Engineer
(What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
To: PJ-Comix
I have fenced for years but I recently started doing daggerfencing.com with a wireless system. Kinda fun!
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:09:02 PM PDT
by
badpacifist
(Romney/Ryan Half right is better than all wrong)
To: PJ-Comix
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:09:42 PM PDT
by
Sergio
(An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
To: PJ-Comix
From the descriptions I have read about, not movies, basically opponents hacked each other to death. The last one standing wins.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:09:51 PM PDT
by
Conservative4Ever
(The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
To: PJ-Comix
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:12:17 PM PDT
by
razorback-bert
(I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
To: PJ-Comix
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:12:27 PM PDT
by
FoxInSocks
("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
To: Conservative4Ever
Yeah, combat by sword back in medieval times was incredibly brutal. Remember when the followers of William Wallace followed him on the battlefield. Me? I would have run a few steps forward...and then dropped my sword and run straight back outta there. And I don’t think most modern men would do any differently.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:15:44 PM PDT
by
PJ-Comix
(Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
To: PJ-Comix
My understanding is these things weren’t really all that sharp; it was more of a bludgeoning operation than a slicing one.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:15:58 PM PDT
by
eclecticEel
(Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
To: Ramius
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:17:05 PM PDT
by
300winmag
(Overkill Never Fails)
To: eclecticEel
I think I just got an idea for my 10 Things blog.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:17:21 PM PDT
by
PJ-Comix
(Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
To: All
It goes without saying...Off-topic, but since I teach writing and have awards for public speaking ...
If something is so obvious that it it goes without saying, please don't waste my time saying it.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:19:57 PM PDT
by
Jemian
To: Snickering Hound
“alright then...we’ll call it a draw eh”
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:24:01 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
To: PJ-Comix
Well the early clan Scots had their women fight along side...blue woad and all. I got some of that fighting spirit from my Scottish sisters.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:26:16 PM PDT
by
Conservative4Ever
(The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
To: PA Engineer
Funny thing about that scene. The screenwriters had a complicated sword fight written in, but Harrison Ford was ill so the script was changed to Indy shooting the swordsman.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:36:25 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
To: PJ-Comix
Mostly a worthless “I know it and you don't” ego-masturbation of an article. Not one single mention of anything relevant to the “proper” way to use a blade.
To be blunt, if you have any clue how to cut quickly and effectively with a blade and have the will to do so, you'll win against someone who doesn't. So you're not going to be using “proper” medieval form. Who cares? Unless you are or come across a true blade master, knowing how to effectively make the first quick cut means you win.
Again, mostly a worthless “I know it and you don't” ego-masturbation of an article...
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:36:36 PM PDT
by
piytar
(The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
To: piytar
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Give an example of how it was different.
One thing that I did learn from a History Channel show on medieval fighting was than men in armor were surprisingly nimble. Knock one down and he's not like a flipped turtle. He'll be back on his feet in a couple seconds.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:44:05 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
To: KarlInOhio
Didn’t know that. The expression on his face was not acting. It worked better anyways.
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posted on
08/23/2012 10:49:36 PM PDT
by
PA Engineer
(What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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