Posted on 08/18/2012 5:45:57 PM PDT by AlmaKing
As he states, the dog completed 6 14ers before. A large percentage of the climbing community brings dogs with them. It is not uncommon.
As the climbing community harps on all the time, when weather rolls in then get off the mountain.
The Sawtooth is a tricky trail section that is between 13,000 and 14,000 feet. It is not the place to be when weather is rolling in. So, the decision to get down was the correct one. Lightening is the number one fear at that altitude because you are entirely exposed. Treeline is probably 1000 to 2000 feet below you. There is no place to hunker down. You are entirely exposed. If you get through the Sawtooth, it is not a bad hike to the parking lot on Mt. Evans at ~14,000 feet. But, if you can't get through it, you have to go back or down some steep terrain.
And yes, dogs have made it through this section.
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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!
by klinger » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:54 am
WOW just...wow... happy endings...some harsh lessons here....no doubt some to be taught by some angry 14erites...this website wants to keep your dog.Top
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by aortolani14 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:01 am
I am sitting here refreshing the screen over and over waiting for people to wake. I am very certain that I have quite the s**t storm coming. But I have to take the good with the bad, with something this good there is a lot of bad I suppose. They can say what ever they want, I will read and learn from every single word. It was my arrogance that put Missy in that situation. I don’t ever want to do anything that could possibly risk her life again. I can’t wait to hike with her again, but I will never put her in danger again.Top
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by AlexMack » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:06 am
Yeah I’m pretty much refreshing this at work, this is going to get amusing in a couple of hours. I give you giant balls points for coming out here. Welcome to 14ers.com, we like your dog.”Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.” - Evan HardinTop
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by aortolani14 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:17 am
AlexMack wrote:
Yeah I’m pretty much refreshing this at work, this is going to get amusing in a couple of hours. I give you giant balls points for coming out here. Welcome to 14ers.com, we like your dog.
Thank you for the support. I’ll take the lashings. I’m just happy she’s okay. This is all so crazy. Missy is an amazing girl. She was born in New York and lived there for three years. She’s been here with me now for two years. She is very well trained and extremely loving and protecting. She is by far the most amazing dog I have ever had the privilege to own. I’m just so thankful right now. I want to see her so badly. This is very much a back from the grave thing right now, I really thought she was gone. I checked the forums here to see if there was any news and I Googled “Dog found on Bierstadt” for a few days after, but I didn’t see anything. I wish I would’ve posted something. Now I am just glad someone else did.
Now the prosecuting attorney is fishing for witnesses to help prosecute Ortolani:
Re: Dog Found (and saved): Mt. Bierstadt!
by BillMiddlebrook » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:22 am
A message from Scott Turner, the prosecutor in this case...
Once again the world has been made aware of the caring community that is known as 14ers.com
I have been following this thread with great interest as I, a 14ers.com member, will be the prosecutor handling the criminal charges in this case. If you were one of the rescuers or personally witnessed anything that happened on the mountain please contact me through my 14ers.com profile. I want to make sure we have contact information for all potential witnesses. Any photographs or video that you may have will also be helpful. If we get to the point where the judge is considering punishment I will do another post with information for whomever would like to send a letter to the judge to make their opinion known as to what should happen to the defendant and the dog. However please remember that under the law Mr. Ortolani is innocent until proven guilty.
That is all I can comment on for now. I will continue to keep the 14ers.com community updated on the progress of the case.
Scott Turner, Chief Deputy District Attorney, 5th Judicial District
A large percentage of the climbing community brings dogs with them. It is not uncommon.”
There is special gear, like booties, for dogs who go climbing with their owners. This dog had none.
Why didn’t he do what the strangers did to get the dog down if he loved it so much?
There’s no way in hell I would have done this to my dog.
I don’t care how many times he said he took the dog with him in the past. The guy deserves to be charged with animal cruelty and lose his dog to someone who will take better care.
Dog 13,300.
Less than 2,000 ft.
It's still unclear why a rescue couldn't have been made from the road up Mt. Evans.
Nor is it clear how the gov't could charge the B0z0 with animal cruelty when the gov't wouldn't help to rescue the dog after notification of the situation.
The b0z0 who NEVER went back to recover the dog has no claim to same now.
I wonder why the distraught owner did not go back to rescue the GSD.
It is fortunate for you that we have many perfect individuals here who will tell you exactly what you did wrong, and what they would have done were they in your shoes. Read and learn.
WTF was the owner doing for the next few days? Waiting for his welfare/disability check?
I can’t imagine leaving my dog. I’d end up dying with my dog.
But on the other hand I was not there & do not know all of the specifics, so I'm not willing to be quiet as critical as some.
Sheriff was no help:
The sheriff’s department also has a rescue team, and other hikers told them about Missy being stranded on Mount Bierstadt during the weekend. However, the rescue team was unable to respond because it is solely reserved for human rescues.
“We can’t specifically send a rescue effort for a dog,” Safe said. “We have a designated rescue team. In the last two weeks we have had six rescues, one a day on the weekends, for people. It is tough terrain out there.”
Read On ABC News Radio: http://abcnewsradioonline.com/national-news/man-faces-animal-cruelty-charge-after-abandoning-dog-on-colo.html#ixzz23wzuS89v
This is a CONSERVATIVE website. “Government” has no responsibility to rescue this jerk’s dog. HE abandoned her to suffer and die for 8 long days.
Why wouldn’t you go back as soon as the weather cleared (even if you had to take a day off work)?
So, Paladin2, it’s very clear you have no idea of the terrain. You should quit posting uninformed opinions.
Go make this climb before issuing an opinion.
Priorities, priorities, priorities.
I think you are also uninformed. Dogs are making these climbs every day without booties. You also didn’t read his post.
Gee, suddenly you get more information and you’re changing your mind about this story?
I've also been over Guenella Pass and find that it is much easier to get to the Mt. Evan parking lot than all the way back to Guenella Pass.
The real issue is why the b0z0 didn't go back the next day at daylight.
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