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1 posted on 08/07/2012 6:13:03 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

I want to know why the psychological field isn’t taking more heat in these shootings. They sure seem to be somewhere involved in nearly all of them.


2 posted on 08/07/2012 6:15:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Perhaps he hated the smell of curry.


3 posted on 08/07/2012 6:16:15 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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I believe the shooter made an assassination business agreement with a foreign power, news the MSM won’t tell anyone about.

One of the victims did have a bounty on his head.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 6:17:26 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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The word Muslim makes headlines, creates controversy and sells advertising so the MSM bends over backwards to get it in, even if they have to make it up!


5 posted on 08/07/2012 6:19:33 AM PDT by vet7279
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There was a Sikh in my community who owned a gas station. After 9/11, he put up a sign that he as a Sikh and not a Muslim. Quite frankly, I don’t think anyone cared but I think he was sensitive to the fact that he thought people would mistake him for a Muslim and associate him with the 9/11 bombings. He is still there operating the gas station. I don’t believe he had a drop off in business after 9/11 (I still went there). So perhaps some of this is the Sikh community itself being sensitive to people’s views of Muslims and making clear that they are not Muslims.


6 posted on 08/07/2012 6:19:57 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Some may be over-playing his psy-ops role. Enlisted in psy-ops means he couldn’t shoot so someone stuck him repairing radios.

I think a lot of the assumption comes from the amount of attacks on sikhs since 9/11 mistaking them for Muslims.

You are right though, it is too early to know motivation. For all we know, he was just fired from a job and his boss went to that temple.


7 posted on 08/07/2012 6:20:05 AM PDT by mnehring
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Because lots of people want it to be that way.


8 posted on 08/07/2012 6:21:30 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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I would LOVE to see the NRA offer to train the Sikhs in the safe and legal use of firearms to protect themselves.

This incident should prove to the Sikhs, and everyone else, that the police can not protect you from violence.

Citizens, trained and armed, are the only protection for their family and loved ones.

That’s the way it’s done here in America; welcome.


12 posted on 08/07/2012 6:24:30 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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I certainly do not. I can tell the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim from a hundred yards in an Atlanta shopping mall. Sikhs have an elegant and kindly air about them, their beards are trimmed with a romantic style and their turbans draped artistically and distinctively. Their woman do not cringe and crouch and do not behave as if they are beaten daily.

I have a Sikh temple in my town, so I know the difference. If you live in a large metro area like Atlanta, it's likely that you would also have been exposed to this rather small Indian sect.

Take that 75 miles out of the big city and that isn't the case, and when somebody's never seen a Sikh before, he's just another foreigner with a rag on his head. Believe me, there are a lot of people who don't know the difference.

Pity, since Sikhs are very pro-USA.

13 posted on 08/07/2012 6:26:03 AM PDT by Kenton (Pssst - I just heard from a guy that Harry Reid isn't just corrupt, he showers with kids!)
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Because, anyone stupid enough to be that racist is also stupid enough to think “turbin = muslim”


16 posted on 08/07/2012 6:28:28 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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I just assumed that the neo-nazi types hated anyone that isn’t white, so the Sikhs qualified.


17 posted on 08/07/2012 6:29:53 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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“Why do we keep assuming the Sikh shooter thought he was killing Muslims?”
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Cuz, 0’Pinhead’s “The Folks” mostly dunno/or care the difference....

Not like we’re dealing w/the brightest of the brightest here....

Semper Dummies
*****


21 posted on 08/07/2012 6:33:41 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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I was wondering the same.

Too many — media, politicians, FReepers — are quick to jump on the nearest bandwagon.

I never heard where the guy lived, but I wondered whether this was a crime of opportunity, rather than a crime aimed at this specific group.

Initially, there were reports of up to 4 shooters. That gave rise to all kinds of conspiracy reports.

I also wondered whether the guy’s girlfriend (they apparently had broken up recently) might have had any connection to this religious community.

Without something more from the shooter [a manifesto, a love-sick letter/message/Facebook, insights from family and associates] all this is just speculation.

What makes a person go crazy and start killing? That is an age old question.


22 posted on 08/07/2012 6:41:07 AM PDT by TomGuy
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It doesn’t much matter (to me, at least) what this nutcase’s motivation was. Walking into a house of worship, or any room full of people, and starting to shoot is wrong and evil. Period. I don’t care if they were Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, or whoever. I don’t care if it was mistaken identity or not. It was an act of evil.


23 posted on 08/07/2012 6:42:11 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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I had never heard of a “white supremacist heavy metal band” which supposedly this guy was a member of.

Is that something that really exists or an MSM creation?


24 posted on 08/07/2012 6:48:45 AM PDT by nascarnation
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Don’t underestimate the power of ignorance or stupidity (said in a Darth Vader voice).

One of the great ironies of the Military Intelligence branch, which includes Psychological Operations, now officially, “Military Information Support Operations”, is that their junior officers typically have bachelor’s degrees, 1/4th of their enlisted personnel have advanced degrees (and are a lot smarter than the officers), and the other 3/4ths are “fairly stupid”, as one MI NCO put it.

I had the charming opportunity to meet, in the stockade, one of these latter, who was the most vicious, nasty, violent serial criminals I could imagine. He had accumulated an enormous list of horrific felony charges, and was a one man crime wave. Everyone in his entire battalion wanted him dead for all the people he had harmed.

I was expecting a heavily tattooed, muscled monster, yet the guy was just a shrimpy white trash kid. Yet he was the devil himself.

In any event, for all his villainy, he was no Moriarty. In fact, I was amazed that he made it through high school, which I suspect promoted him to get rid of him.

For this reason I am not at all surprised at the Sikh-shooter’s biography. Still an E-5 Sgt. after six years means that he had reached a promotion dead end, as four years is typical for the next grade. And to be kicked down to Specialist E-4 means that he had seriously fouled up.

Then he spent a decade or more with white supremacists, who are also not great fonts of wisdom.


30 posted on 08/07/2012 7:00:13 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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You are assuming the general public knows the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim. I would have to disagree. The general public are quite ignorant.


33 posted on 08/07/2012 7:19:57 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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Notice how the government is clamping down in the info so that if there are facts that refute the MSM narrative, they will be hidden for a long time.

Tom


39 posted on 08/07/2012 7:28:52 AM PDT by Fido969
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I agree. Kinda hard to see how even the most dense liberal could have confused them in this case.


40 posted on 08/07/2012 7:29:50 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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Muslims hate Jews. Neo-Nazis hate Jews. I find it odd he would go supposedly try to kill Muslims.


45 posted on 08/07/2012 7:45:40 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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