To: adorno
Well I see this thread has received some new life, largely due to the continued high-volume, clueless trolling by adorno. I hate to do this, but since it’s new ground, as well as easy pickings...
“When Apple allows its customers to uninstall OSX and install Windows in its place, without invalidating any warranties, that’s when OSX will meet its demise, since, Windows 7, and now Windows 8, are vastly superior products to any Apple OS, and much more useful with the millions of applications available for Windows.”
Apple has “allowed” this for years. You should look into “Boot Camp”. And of course the “demise” of MacOS is nowhere in sight, instead it is growing in popularity rather rapidly. Given that something like 90% of the code base is the same between MacOS and iOS, it has a long, healthy future ahead.
The fact is that few opt for Windows instead of MacOS, because most find MacOS to work better, to be more enjoyable, and to involve fewer problems. There is also the added bonus of the excellent bundled apps, including a solid backup program - something Windows 8 is rumored to include whenever it finally ships.
At any rate, I hope you find something more productive to do than what you’ve been doing on this thread - although given this lengthy display of ignorance perhaps it’s not surprising that you have a lot of time on your hands.
To: PreciousLiberty
The fact is that few opt for Windows instead of MacOS, because most find MacOS to work better, to be more enjoyable, and to involve fewer problems. There is also the added bonus of the excellent bundled apps, including a solid backup program - something Windows 8 is rumored to include whenever it finally ships.
We use Boot Camp to run some Windows programs that aren't available anywhere else. It's not so much a great thing as it is a crutch. We use both Dells and Macs in our lab. If it weren't for the fact that some of the DNA sequencers are made to work only with Dells we would use Mac for everything. Virtually all the trouble we have comes from Windows.
102 posted on
08/06/2012 5:03:02 AM PDT by
aruanan
To: PreciousLiberty
Well I see this thread has received some new life, largely due to the continued high-volume, clueless trolling by adorno. I hate to do this, but since its new ground, as well as easy pickings...
So, whenever somebody disagrees with your take on things, your definition for that is "trolling". Perhaps then, I should be calling you a "troll", since, you disagree with me? And, if there's anyone here with the clueless argument, then, it has to be you, since, you still haven't got a coherent or factual argument.
When Apple allows its customers to uninstall OSX and install Windows in its place, without invalidating any warranties, thats when OSX will meet its demise, since, Windows 7, and now Windows 8, are vastly superior products to any Apple OS, and much more useful with the millions of applications available for Windows.
I stand by that argument.
Apple has allowed this for years. You should look into Boot Camp.
Yet, for that, you do need the Boot Camp software, and a setup in a different partition, and a separate copy of Windows OS; and Apple does not support the "application" if anything should go wrong while using Windows under Boot Camp. So, why even bother when Windows works in regular PCs without the need for middle-ware?
In addition:
Boot Camp supports Microsoft Windows XP with Service Pack 2, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 (requires Mac OS X v10.6 or later and Boot Camp 3.1 or later). For more details, see Boot Camp: System requirements for Microsoft Windows. For information about using 64-bit editions of Windows Vista or Windows 7, see Boot Camp: Macs that work with 64-bit editions of Microsoft Windows Vista and Windows 7.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1461
That means that, any Macs that were sold without Snow Leopard OS, won't be able to run Boot Camp. People had better upgrade their OS or get a new computer in order to run XP, or Vista, or Windows 7, or any Windows applications. That's an expensive proposition. Now, with Windows 8 shortly to be released to consumers, will Boot Camp be ready? Or will they have to start all over again?
And of course the demise of MacOS is nowhere in sight, instead it is growing in popularity rather rapidly.
Meager Mac Pro upgrades worry enterprises
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/mac/meager-mac-pro-upgrades-worry-enterprises/2226?tag=nl.e102
Apples recent announcements in June, which seemed to leave the Mac Pro behind in its product development plans, sounded an alarm. Upgrades were confirmed to replacement of aging CPUs, and seemed to be more in the spirit of just keeping the machine maintained. Even more revealing was Apples exclusion of the same Thunderbolt data throughput upgrade that was announced for iMacs. MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, and Mac Minis. Thunderbolt I/O technology matters because it moves data up to 20 times faster than USB 2.0 and 12 times faster than FireWire 800.
While it may seem like Apple still supports the desktop Mac, many speculate that, it's on the way out.
And with iOS features being merged into OSX, with OSX looking more and more like iOS, then, OSX will have become iOS, which would make OSX redundant and unneeded in the traditional laptop/ultrabook form-factors. Those who own any laptops from Apple, and any older Mac Airs, may see their portable computers become obsolete, and unsupported in the near future. Apple is headed towards a product line which is strictly mobile computing, with heavy emphasis on iPhones and iPads and iPods, with the iPod becoming redundant, since, the iPhone has virtually all the same features as those iPods.
So, I do try to stay informed, especially about what's happening around technology and software, since, that's been my career. Perhaps it's you that needs to get in touch with technology, since you are apparently the one that's clueless.
The fact is that few opt for Windows instead of MacOS
Most people who purchase Macs won't even be aware that they can use Windows instead of OSX, so, a lot of them won't be making the switch. But, if it became widely known and even advertised that Macs can run Windows, you can be sure that, more and more would make the switch, especially with OSX becoming another iOS for the heavier duty portable computers. Again, you can see the concentration by Apple on mobile devices, with the demise of the desktop Mac Pro expected sometime in the future.
With the professional side of Mac usage, there are plenty of people who do like Mac hardware, but, there are many of them who have switched to using Windows 7 more than they do OSX. It's more to do with being productive and developing for the platform with the much larger number of users, that, of course, being Windows.
Given that something like 90% of the code base is the same between MacOS and iOS, it has a long, healthy future ahead.
You're making my point.
With MacOS becoming less relevant with each new update, what you'll have left is iOS, which is mostly for the mobile/internet combo, which would indicate that, the traditional Mac is on the way out, not right away, but, eventually. To Apple the post-Mac era arrived a long time ago, but, since they're still making money on the Macs, they'll keep them around for a while longer. They're not really updating those Macs, and they're just trying to provide the minimum required updates in order to keep those devices kind of relevant.
The fact is that few opt for Windows instead of MacOS, because most find MacOS to work better, to be more enjoyable, and to involve fewer problems.
What's to enjoy with a stale platform, which provides a lot less fun than any PC, which has millions of applications written for it, and with many times the games and entertainment applications as can be found for Macs? MacOS may work adequate enough for what can be done with them, but, Windows 7, and now, Windows 8, offer a lot more and at a much better quality and a lot lower price. It's like there are people who might be happy with their 5 room homes (Apple), but, the people with 90 room homes (Windows) are a lot happier and spending less than those with the 5 rooms. ;)
There is also the added bonus of the excellent bundled apps, including a solid backup program - something Windows 8 is rumored to include whenever it finally ships.
Believe it or not, Windows has always offered bundled apps, which is how the OEMs make their money with sales of PCs. And, for Windows, there are low cost and even free apps for backup. Now, with Apple, the backup will have to be through iCloud, since the amount of storage on the Macs is now more limited than ever with expensive solid state storage, and which is going to be an expensive proposition in itself. Advantage: Windows, by a large margin.
At any rate, I hope you find something more productive to do than what youve been doing on this thread
I do have more constructive and productive things to do with my life, but you keep coming up with your "clueless trolling", which necessitates that, I correct you in so many areas.
although given this lengthy display of ignorance
Glad to see you recognize so much of your own ignorance. Keep it up, and you'll begin to make some sense.
perhaps its not surprising that you have a lot of time on your hands
You're taking up too much of my valuable time with your "clueless trolling", and, somebody has to argue against so much of your ignorance.
Now, go and get informed, and start thinking about what Apple has in mind, instead of trying to defend them so much. Are you an employee of theirs, or are you so much in love with Apple that, you've become blinded to the facts?
105 posted on
08/06/2012 1:06:36 PM PDT by
adorno
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