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Does anyone know Michigan laws regarding purchasing guns from a private owner
Luigi | 7/12/12 | Luigi Vasellini

Posted on 07/12/2012 6:55:34 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini

I know a lady who wants to sell me her dead husbands guns (pistols, rifles and shotguns). I was wondering if any freepers know what the state of Michigans laws are. Thanks in advance, Luigi


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1 posted on 07/12/2012 6:55:42 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini
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To: Luigi Vasellini

Now that you have attracted the attention of the ATF and FBI....

just google Gun laws in Michigan you will find all the info you need


2 posted on 07/12/2012 7:01:59 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Luigi Vasellini; 300winmag

Mr Mag, you might have a word ot two here.


3 posted on 07/12/2012 7:08:35 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now,!)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

I would have recommended: B S S —— Buy. Shovel. Shutup. Too bad you violated the the third rule. ATF will be coming through your front door about 0430hr Friday. Have fun!


4 posted on 07/12/2012 7:16:19 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012! Allez Pack!)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

It appears that private rifle and shotguns sales are no problem.
However, MI has some funky rules for private handgun sales.

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77330

I would consult a local gun shop for guidance.


5 posted on 07/12/2012 7:22:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Luigi Vasellini; Breto; TaMoDee

This is a “hypothetical” question, right ? (wink wink, nod nod)


6 posted on 07/12/2012 7:33:14 PM PDT by onona (6.5 out of 8 apple trees I planted this year are toast. Very sad.)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

Amazingly it appears that MI requires two state forms to be filled out for a private hand gun sale even if its a “pellet” pistol.


7 posted on 07/12/2012 7:36:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

You already bought them but theu sank in a horrible boating accident....right?


8 posted on 07/12/2012 8:11:58 PM PDT by The SISU kid (I think they taste like Barbie dolls smell.)
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To: ExGeeEye
The long guns can be sold privately with no problem, as long as you see enough proof from the buyer that's he's a MI resident, and over 18.

Handguns are weird, especially in MI. When my father died, legal title and registration of them passed on to my mother. To give them to me, the local PD generated blank purchase permits for each one. She would fill out her part as seller, with me as buyer. Then I took them back to the PD, they stamped everything, and they then had new paper that said I was the owner.

It was all free back then, but since there were about a dozen handguns involved, they only did three a week because otherwise it was too much effort for them. They notarized each form for free, but would probably charge $20 apiece now because they are desperate for money. They were actually quite cooperative for being bureaucrats.

This may change soon, because Michigan is starting to realize that state, county, and cities spend millions of dollars a year for a 1930's registration that has never solved a single crime. The federal NICS system is free for them, and even though it's still basically useless, it would save them real money every year.

A bill in the state senate has already passed that would treat handgun sales in Michigan the same as long guns. The feds would be involved via NICS for every sale that goes through a FFL holder, while sales between individuals would go on as before, but this time including handguns.

I don't think this will be seen until after the November election, because the governor doesn't want to make waves.

One word of warning

Widows are especially vulnerable to "friends" of the late husband who stop buy and offer a disgustingly low-ball price for the whole collection, out of their concern that she not be cheated by "unscrupulous" collectors who would offer her even less. If nothing else, if you have a conscience, make sure she has a realistic view of what the stuff is really worth.

9 posted on 07/12/2012 9:54:05 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: 300winmag

A caution on any weapons that may have a ‘stamp’ accompanying them. You know what I mean, especially if a trust was created for thestamp issuing.


10 posted on 07/12/2012 10:02:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
A caution on any weapons that may have a ‘stamp’ accompanying them.

You are correct, but in Michigan I would guess the odds of coming across a "stamped" item is about a million to one. More important is for the husband to keep his wife informed on the overall value of his stuff, and teach her the signs of a "friendly" ripoff during a time of grief. Just like making sure she knows were all the insurance policies and safe deposit box keys are kept.

Even a letter left with the guns and explaining things, and addressed to her, should bring more peace of mind to both parties.

11 posted on 07/12/2012 10:55:46 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: 300winmag

Excellent advice!


12 posted on 07/12/2012 11:06:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

The gun buyer’s version of SSS (shoot, shovel, shut up) comes to mind. No catchy acronym, though.

Procure, secure, obscure?

Oh, wait- then you have to kill the seller...never mind!


13 posted on 07/13/2012 8:34:17 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: mylife
However, MI has some funky rules for private handgun sales.

OK, here's a suggestion: overpay for the long guns, and have the handguns gifted to you in gratitude.

14 posted on 07/13/2012 8:37:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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