Posted on 07/12/2012 6:55:34 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini
I know a lady who wants to sell me her dead husbands guns (pistols, rifles and shotguns). I was wondering if any freepers know what the state of Michigans laws are. Thanks in advance, Luigi
Now that you have attracted the attention of the ATF and FBI....
just google Gun laws in Michigan you will find all the info you need
Mr Mag, you might have a word ot two here.
I would have recommended: B S S —— Buy. Shovel. Shutup. Too bad you violated the the third rule. ATF will be coming through your front door about 0430hr Friday. Have fun!
It appears that private rifle and shotguns sales are no problem.
However, MI has some funky rules for private handgun sales.
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77330
I would consult a local gun shop for guidance.
This is a “hypothetical” question, right ? (wink wink, nod nod)
Amazingly it appears that MI requires two state forms to be filled out for a private hand gun sale even if its a “pellet” pistol.
You already bought them but theu sank in a horrible boating accident....right?
Handguns are weird, especially in MI. When my father died, legal title and registration of them passed on to my mother. To give them to me, the local PD generated blank purchase permits for each one. She would fill out her part as seller, with me as buyer. Then I took them back to the PD, they stamped everything, and they then had new paper that said I was the owner.
It was all free back then, but since there were about a dozen handguns involved, they only did three a week because otherwise it was too much effort for them. They notarized each form for free, but would probably charge $20 apiece now because they are desperate for money. They were actually quite cooperative for being bureaucrats.
This may change soon, because Michigan is starting to realize that state, county, and cities spend millions of dollars a year for a 1930's registration that has never solved a single crime. The federal NICS system is free for them, and even though it's still basically useless, it would save them real money every year.
A bill in the state senate has already passed that would treat handgun sales in Michigan the same as long guns. The feds would be involved via NICS for every sale that goes through a FFL holder, while sales between individuals would go on as before, but this time including handguns.
I don't think this will be seen until after the November election, because the governor doesn't want to make waves.
One word of warning
Widows are especially vulnerable to "friends" of the late husband who stop buy and offer a disgustingly low-ball price for the whole collection, out of their concern that she not be cheated by "unscrupulous" collectors who would offer her even less. If nothing else, if you have a conscience, make sure she has a realistic view of what the stuff is really worth.
A caution on any weapons that may have a ‘stamp’ accompanying them. You know what I mean, especially if a trust was created for thestamp issuing.
You are correct, but in Michigan I would guess the odds of coming across a "stamped" item is about a million to one. More important is for the husband to keep his wife informed on the overall value of his stuff, and teach her the signs of a "friendly" ripoff during a time of grief. Just like making sure she knows were all the insurance policies and safe deposit box keys are kept.
Even a letter left with the guns and explaining things, and addressed to her, should bring more peace of mind to both parties.
Excellent advice!
The gun buyer’s version of SSS (shoot, shovel, shut up) comes to mind. No catchy acronym, though.
Procure, secure, obscure?
Oh, wait- then you have to kill the seller...never mind!
OK, here's a suggestion: overpay for the long guns, and have the handguns gifted to you in gratitude.
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