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Roll-your-own cigarette stores going up in smoke
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 4, 2012 | Emily Morris

Posted on 07/04/2012 7:43:52 PM PDT by Graybeard58

For smokers who bargained on roll-your-own cigarette stores for cheap smokes, it looks like those days are numbered.

On Friday, President Barack Obama is expected to sign into law a federal highway bill with a section that redefines tobacco manufacturers to include any business with a roll-your-own cigarette machine and taxes those products at the same rate as packaged smokes.

The move comes a month after Illinois increased taxes on such roll-your-own machine-made cigarettes.

Marcia Smith, 47, of Lake County, decided after the state tax increase that she should move her Smokes & Such tobacco shops in Skokie and Gurnee to Wisconsin, where taxes on rolled cigarettes are lower.

If Obama signs the law, she said she’ll shut her doors.

The machines, which cost about $33,000 each, allow customers to pick their own tobacco and pour it into a device that can roll the tobacco into a carton, or about 200 cigarettes, within minutes.


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1 posted on 07/04/2012 7:43:56 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Tobacco is an easy to grow .... urh ornamental plant....
for.... you know... shrub value...


2 posted on 07/04/2012 7:49:17 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Graybeard58
federal highway bill with a section that redefines tobacco manufacturers to include any business with a roll-your-own cigarette machine and taxes those products at the same rate as packaged smokes

Seems like a perfectly natural place for the fedguv to redefine what it means to be a tobacco manufacturer. My disdain for the administration and the GOP congress who passed the bill knows no bounds.
3 posted on 07/04/2012 7:49:30 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Graybeard58

Time to go underground black market transactions and bartering avoiding taxes altogether. Starve the beast!


4 posted on 07/04/2012 7:49:54 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Graybeard58

Taxes were NOT raised on ‘pipe tobacco’.
RYO and MYO cigs will cost the same as before- about 1/6 the price of pre-made in my experience.

It’s a shame these people will be put out of business.
I’m glad my smoke shop didn’t take the risk of buying one of these machines.


5 posted on 07/04/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Graybeard58

The enforcement arm of Obamacare strikes again.


6 posted on 07/04/2012 8:04:41 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Graybeard58

Unfortunately knew their days were numbered

Very easy and quick to make your own (and those days are numbered too - counting on more days for that numbering.)


7 posted on 07/04/2012 8:06:49 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: libertarian27

Might as well smoke home-grown pot, which is cheaper, and doesn’t provide financial gain to corrupt thugs. You know, the ones we voted for.:)


8 posted on 07/04/2012 8:18:04 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: andyk

While it sounds nice to blame the current resident and congress, this $#!t has been going on for decades, centuries even.

The only way to stop it is to amend the Constitution that forbids the practice. No more riders.


9 posted on 07/04/2012 8:27:06 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: tflabo

I had too much time on my hands one night and I calculated how many packs of smokes would fit in a semi-truck van.

Van; 576” long (48’), 110” high (inside), 102” wide (prolly 98” inside width). Over 6 million cubic inches and an ave. pack of smokes is 5.85 ci.

One of these vans would hold about a million packs.

Lots of maoney rolling down the highway.


10 posted on 07/04/2012 8:29:38 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: tflabo

I had too much time on my hands one night and I calculated how many packs of smokes would fit in a semi-truck van.

Van; 576” long (48’), 110” high (inside), 102” wide (prolly 98” inside width). Over 6 million cubic inches and an ave. pack of smokes is 5.85 ci.

One of these vans would hold about a million packs.

Lots of maoney rolling down the highway.


11 posted on 07/04/2012 8:30:27 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Graybeard58

bummer


12 posted on 07/04/2012 8:38:44 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Graybeard58

This company will still mail you cigs. How do they get away with it?

http://www.senecacigarettes.com/tobacco/?page=shop/index&ps_session=f0e76fd54290aab974741cdc69684d05


13 posted on 07/04/2012 8:42:51 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

“Might as well smoke home-grown pot, which is cheaper, and doesn’t provide financial gain to corrupt thugs. You know, the ones we voted for.:)”

Levon Helm-—— Growing Trade....RIP Levon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsuJa8oSH7s&feature=list_other&playnext=1&list=AL94UKMTqg-9A55j4ghX7mH2IChaHqgPHC


14 posted on 07/04/2012 8:45:04 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: patriot08
They are on an Indian Reservation - Tonawanda Indian Reservation, 852 bloomingdale Rd, Basom, New York, 14013

Althgough NY State has been trying to cut in on them too.

15 posted on 07/04/2012 8:52:05 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: mrsmith

I’m old enough to remmeber the old Laredo home cigarette rolling machine and tobacco. I see they still sell them on ebay along with more modern equivalents - http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=VINTAGE+filter+cigarette+maker+Laredo+tobacco+roller


16 posted on 07/04/2012 8:55:08 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Graybeard58

Try to turn a profit in America, I dare you!

17 posted on 07/04/2012 8:57:17 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: Graybeard58

First, they came for the smokers, and I said nothing...


18 posted on 07/04/2012 9:04:47 PM PDT by Random_User_250
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To: AFreeBird

“The only way to stop it is to amend the Constitution that forbids the practice.”

The problem in a democracy is you get a majority that thinks something is the right thing to do or they just want to do it, the minority is constantly getting screwed. They shouldn’t ban something unless it’s an unlabeled poison.

Yes, amend the constitution, if possible!


19 posted on 07/04/2012 9:17:11 PM PDT by Hokestuk
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To: Graybeard58

All of them have been dicking with us for Decades.

Obama is the worst, but he wont win, he is just pissing folks off.

FUBO! FUMO!

And for all you folks that think taxing smokers is cool....
Stand Bye.


20 posted on 07/04/2012 9:18:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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