The straightforward answer is that you are almost certainly a whining, lying little tool who wants Obama to win the election.
I'd love to get straightforward answers to those questions from Romney supporters.
Posted on 07/04/2012 1:16:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Wellllllll Jim, Enjoy The Bed You’ve Made . SUMMARY: . IN COMPLEX INTERPERSONAL SITUATIONS AND RELATIONSHIPS—WHO CAN KNOW WHAT IS “REALLY REAL?” APPEARANCES ARE WHAT IS REAL TO THE OBSERVER CONCERNED. So, in many respects, the REAL might be the opposite of the statements below. However, the statements ARE PERCEIVED TO BE—APPARENTLY REAL ENOUGH for evidently thousands of FREEPERS that only idiots would fail to give such assertions fitting prayerful pondering.
1. Your leadership and leadership culture are consistent with those of a fairly complex person—like many of us.
2. Your leadership and leadership team CAN be quite generous, forgiving, kind, patient, understanding, compassionate, stalwart, tough, durable, endearing, perceptive, sensitive, thoughtful, persistent, occasionally self-effacing, prefer peace and peacableness; . . .
3. Your leadership and leadership team CAN also be quite arrogant, mean-spirited, harsh, abusive, very foul-worded, hypocritical, mercenary, spiteful, !!!CONTROLLING!!!, narrow, rigid, brittle, prickly, vengeful, judgmental, erratic, flip-floppy, irrational, arbitrary, hypocritical, petty, shallow, prefer flailing about in bitter harsh ways . . .
4. Like all of us with such disadmirable traits, such junk MUST come from your early history and less than ideal fathering (or possibly mothering and/or both).
5. For whatever reasons you have failed to work such junk through very far or very thoroughly.
6. Which might be largely neither here nor there in the larger scheme of things—EXCEPT THAT—you HAVE BEEN GIVEN OF GOD an incredible honor, opportunity, calling, gift, mandate—which you have appeared to increasingly squander to alarming degrees on arrogance, greed, foul, petty, dishonorable ugliness and ineffectual chaotic nastiness, conflictedness, unnecessary contentiousness and the like.
7. As I’ve often said—it’s fine with me if FREEPERS make you rich every day. If a million FR users and lurkers wish to give you a dollar or 5 dollars a day or a month the rest of your life—GREAT. FR gives lots of usefulness, pleasure, relationships and community to many thousands of people daily day in and day out; year in and year out.
7.1 Given the importance of the financial aspect to so many people . . . here’s some comments I posted earlier:
7.2 There is FARRRR tooooo little transparency and candor in terms of finances generally and specifically.
7.3 There is FARRR TOOOOOOO much abuse of even long time users and big time donors. What kind of management brilliance does it take to run off for petty shallow reasons folks who donated $2,500 PER FREEPATHON . . . and folks who donated $500 PER FREEPATHON . . . folks who just left in disgust if not hurt and anger over the petty abuse they took (or their friends or people they respected took) for no good reason. There's evidently some sort of spiritual and psychodynamic sickness at the deep root of such nonsense. And it appears to be getting worse instead of better.
7.4 Begging for funds with various kinds of shallow manipulations and funky hogwash could just be harmless fun among friendly family . . . except that . . . those giving such funds faithfully for more than 10 years are NEVER REALLY SECURE in the RELATIONSHIP and not even in being able to enjoy the FR HOME THAT THEY PAID FOR AND HELPED BUILD from virtually the ground up.
7.5 At some point, the arrogant dogmatic !!!CONTROL!!! freaque domineering fist pounding that "IT'S HIS HOUSE!" "IT'S HIS LIVING ROOM!" is outrageous, hypocritical and just plain factual nonsense. It is FREEPERS who have built up the readership of FR. It is FREEPERS' creativity and writing skills and interesting personalities who have build up FR's once great attractiveness to a wider audience.
7.6 Who paid for the carpet? Who paid for the paint? Who paid for the furniture? Who paid for the pics on the wall? Who pays for the electricity? Who pays for the heat and air conditioning? Who pays the insurance? Who pays the other utilities? Who pays for the internet service? Who pays for the gardening? Who pays for the groceries? Who pays for the transportation? Who pays for the "coming soon servers" that never quite seem to arrive?
7.6.1 Just who is the guest of whom?
7.6.2 It appears that with readership down 16-20% over the last 6 months or so . . . an increasing number of people are flushing the 'guest' out of their lives.
7.7 Clearly, it's the FREEPER SHEEPLE who have been paying through the nose in the face of erratic, arbitrary, irrational abuse year in and year out--never knowing when the mean-streak is going to strike out and slap them hard or even ban them--sometimes in the foulest language any "Christian" was ever known to utter or write. And then their EXTENDED FAMILY that has become so dear and precious to them—sometimes their literal life-savers--will be suddenly flushed out of their lives with absolutely no recourse whatsoever.
7.8 It is ACTUALLY ABOUT AS REASONABLE to say that JR and family are the squatters in the FREEPERS' HOME. . . . you know . . . that old founding documents thing . . . OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE?
And even that wouldn’t be soooooo outrageous IF a REPRESENTATIVE sample (REPRESENTATIVE—AS IN “REPUBLIC”!!!) of the FREEPER COMMUNITY had a seat at the table to offer input and advice THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY THOUGHTFULLY AND FAIRLY CONSIDERED each quarter. But, NOPE, the fist pounding, insecure, arrogant !!!CONTROL!!! freak domineering junk always rules.
8. HOWEVER, the mean-spirited, arrogant, hypocritical etc. junk has APPEARED to poison your well from the beginning. There have been gross hypocrisies. Early on you were reportedly utterly convinced (with good reason, actually) that Bush was complicit in drug running through Arkansas etc. Yet, fairly early on, you became convinced or persuaded that any discussion of conspiracy stuff on FR had to be forbidden—and mocked as absurdly untrue.
9. You would pontificate at length about maintaining a CONSISTENT stance as a Republic on the unchanging values and foundation of the founding fathers and founding documents. You claimed therewith to be the Premier Conservative website etc. in support thereof. All this was repeatedly stated with great pontifical emotion and fanfare while your leadership and leadership team APPEARED TO BE an erratic, irregular grossly inconsistent, grossly petty, shallow, flip-floppy and often a pathetic chaotic, haphazard, directionless mess.
10. Some folks have documented that few of the political figures you have ended up supporting have won. I don’t know that THAT means a huge lot, given the globalists insuring that the whole SElection/voting mess is 98% farce, charade, futile. However, there’s been a great deal of emotion, energy, expense, time, angst UTTERLY AND TOTALLY WASTED on !!!DEMANDING!!! that loyal FREEPERS support person XYZ and NOT ABC under pain of banning. Only to wake-up the next morning and have to flip-flop with the FR leadership team—too often—seemingly 180 degrees. And to do that with a straight face as though it were rational, made sense and was of benefit to the Republic has been more than a little off the wall and mystifying to thousands of FREEPERS. I don't know where folks were supposed to check their brains and integrity as they complied with the FR Pied Piper in following that nonsense lock-step.
11. You have evidently repeatedly and reportedly from the early years--returned evil for good. That’s been true toward individuals and toward classes and groups of individuals. There’s no excuse for that. None. There’s dozens of ways to avoid that in any kind of disagreement. SOMETIMES it has APPEARED that you and/or your leadership team have gone out of your way to do that—SOMETIMES SEEMINGLY in the meanest, harshest ways handy. Scripture is quite clear about the consequences of that kind of sowing.
12. You can be glibly self-effacing and disarmingly dismissive of the quality of your own Christianity, your leadership, your understanding . . . a list of things in that paragraph that ON THE SURFACE sounded and appeared impressive. Sadly, shortly after, it appeared to be merely propaganda for the FREEPATHON. It became quickly unclear how much of an earnest, heart-felt confession it really was—largely because there was no follow-up fruit of such a confession. It soon rang hollow and a farce. The arrogance, harshness and arbitrary and erratic !!!CONTROL!!! freak stuff quickly returned.
13. You and your leadership team have pontificated, exclaimed and wailed about !!!LOYALTY!!! and !!!BETRAYAL!!! while demonstrating the most petty and absurdly based disloyalty and outrageous betrayal of anyone who was ever a part of FR. You have absolutely no room to talk or complain about either one of those issues. You have merely reaped A PORTION of what you have so chronically, persistently and often mean-spiritedly sown in such regards. And your reaping is far from finished on such scores.
14. You have rightly and honorably claimed Christian values as a hallmark of your personally held priorities as well as FR’s priorities. Sometimes you have followed through—such as with your very admirable and honorable tenacious insistence that prayer threads be allowed in the main NEWS forum. By the same token, you have frequently demonstrated a hideous tendency to lapse into harsh, abusive, foul-mouthed communications publicly and privately—which would make many a sailor blush. None of us is 100% free 100% of the time of 100% of all hypocrisy. However, the frequency and ruthlessness of such foul-mouthed and arbitrary harshness out of clearly a mean-streak is NOT AT ALL a fruit of Holy Spirit. AT some point, perceptive, thinking and discerning folks have to ask themselves: Where is the real JimRob and just how much of an authentic Christian is he? And what game is he REALLY playing for what goal(s)? And doe HE even know or have a clue who he is and what he's about?
15. Many of us have been prayerful and seriously concerned about your health problems for a long time. However, sadly, even there some of us are troubled. Given the relationship between the MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT, one has to wonder if your health would be significantly better if your spiritual health and persistent demonstrations of your spirituality were more consistent with the advertising. In short—mean-spiritedness produces a troublesome harvest in the body, in relationships, in the psyche and certainly in the spirit. At some point, all the prayers in the world will not force a STUBBORN, mean-spirited ARROGANT soul to be better, healthy. As Scripture notes:
1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. . . .” I don’t know if the rest of that verse applies to you at present, or not. I know you’re on slippery ground on that score.
16. And IDOLATRY will NOT WORK for anyone—even the king of FR. It doesn’t matter if one nurses one’s own bitterness as idolatry; or if one idolizes one’s country; or one’s own press releases; or one’s FR baby or whatever. Idolatry is a deadly poison.
17. I’ve agonized for many months over how to write the compassionate but stern rebuke I felt pressed so strongly in my spirit to write. People either seem to suck-up to you in fierce psychophant fashion—or to trash you as a minion of satan. I see you more as a typical Attachment Disordered man hung up on some serious spiritual and psychodynamic flaws like most of us in our era. So what. However, to stubbornly cling to one’s arrogance, stubbornness, meanness . . . and to ALLOW, much less seem to exalt in spewing such all over the thousands of folks who give money for your support and the support of your baby . . . that is at best unwise and at worst a pretty hideous example of human excess.
18. I don’t know what God intends to do with you and/or FR. I know you are NOT indispensable. I know that FR will NOT significantly influence the corrupt farce of a November SElection process—if we get that far in any kind of functional shape as a Nation.
19. I know that you have been given a priceless gift and honor of ENORMOUS potential good for the Nation, millions of individuals and the Body of Christ. And you & your leadership team have appeared to squander horrendous chunks of that potential on pettiness, personal pique, arrogance, stubbornness, meanness, willful blindness and willful ignorance. I know that many thousands of people in and out of the Body of Christ who COULD HAVE BEEN FITTINGLY AND USEFULLY WARNED about the spiritual and practical hazards of satanic globalism as well as the fallen angel UFO stuff have not been warned because of y’all’s junk and the junk of the likes of JeanS and Dirtboy and their cadre of harpies. To the degree THAT is true, there will be embarrassing amounts of blood on such hands, come judgment day—unless confession and repentance are heart-felt effected before then—and even then, though it may cover such sins redemptively with Christ’s blood—it will not save thousands who would have otherwise been saved had such a sobering responsibility been carried more fittingly and Biblically earlier.
20. Yet again, as all of us every day—have a choice. You can continue as is most likely—as you have for decades. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. And, I am well aware that you have rarely to never demonstrated, to my awareness, the least bit of a constructive response to negative feedback. It’s more likely that such a msg will result in a hardened heart, more arrogance and more stubbornness. That will be however it will be, with the responsibility for individual choices resting with each individual on your leadership team as well as on your supporters.
21. I only know of one priceless brilliant Christian in the upper levels of FR respect, who could likely help pull FR out of such a mess. You know who that is. You probably know they would be highly unlikely to ever say anything—particularly unasked. And, even if asked, they would likely be very sparse with their words—and it would be easy for you to discount, dismiss and ignore their wisdom. They would not push it. Shoot, they likely even would help you circle the wagons unless God made it clear they needed to do otherwise for your spiritual and other health.
22. Time is running out. Your options are shrinking daily in a list of ways as they are for all of us--unless we abide in Christ. I don’t know if Fresno is at a high enough elevation to escape coming traumas for California. I don’t think it is. Besides, the Chinese are not likely to be kind to Californians when they arrive to take possession of so much that they now own. I don’t’ know if HumbleGunner’s place in Texas is far enough from the coast and from Mexico to be wise either. I just know, you and all on the planet need to do MUCH BETTER at getting your spiritual house and your practical house in order--faster.
22. The question was raised in the FREE QUIX thread you closed yesterday about whether I’d like to return to FR. (A) I don’t feel the freedom to do that without your confession, repentance and evidence that you are going to sincerely back such confession and repentance up with “fruit” as the Bible might put it. Confess and repent about what? Whatever of the above that God would confirm as having validity and truth in your life. I suspect hell would freeze over before you’d humble yourself sufficiently to confess and repent. BTW, it needs to be public because your junk was flung about so freely publicly. (B) I don’t feel the freedom to return unless my posting options would cease to be curtailed by mindless, ignorant boundaries. That would include about globalism AS WELL AS the fallen angel UFO topic. I miss the relationship connections but God is God and always will be God and makes even that OK. Besides, folks can find me on this TBL forum.
22.1 Yes, THIS TOO is done as I’d want done toward me IF I’d demonstrated the junk you and your leadership has demonstrated for 11+ years. I’d want someone to care enough to try and starkly but caringly get my attention about such horrors in my life and turf.
23. I do thank you for the years I had on FR of many fulfilling and meaningful exchanges with very interesting people of great diversity but a lot of shared values. May God richly reward you for the humble part I had in all that.
24. I do pray that you earnestly do what you can to, by God’s Grace, truly get your act together. Reaping what we have sown can be a troublesome challenge for all of us. Given your evident current bent, I’d much hate to see any further reaping what you have sown.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:43:06 PM by Quix »
Onyx, God bless, friend. :)
I know I wouldn't. I'd be voting third party at the least and very possibly voting for the Dem.
And that's what I mean about firing a president this November not picking one.
Based on what he has done since taking office, Obama has to go regardless of who he is going to be replaced with.
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Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:28:03 PM · 253 of 484
rogue yam to dragnet2
Ya think anyone sits there and reads all that hogwash?
If you are asking me whether I think that the Mitt Haters are without a shred of integrity then my answer is yes, the members of the FR He-Man Mitt Haters Club are, to a man, all completely devoid of integrity.”
Oh! The intelligence and rationality of your words! I am all a’flutter. What a positive contribution to conservatism you make....you freaking phony.
That’s not a secret, trisham.
Well, actually ... I don’t think this site is pro-Catholic ... :-) ... but it’s not anti-Catholic either. I believe it’s neutral in terms of theological doctrines - as far as the site itself is concerned.
This is mainly a political site and in reality - many different religions can exist in the “political realm” and cooperate with certain bills and electing certain representatives - who represent certain values and traditions in society in which these differing religions have “common interests”.
BUT ... that’s as far as it goes - just down to the political level. When you get into the area of THEOLOGICAL DOCTRINES - then that’s another story. Here in the USA we’ve done a better job of separating out the political cooperation from the religious doctrines and keep things in their own “sphere of influence”.
Thus ... that’s why there is a religious forum which is separate from the general news and activism (in the political realm).
And there on the Religious Forum ... you can argue all day long about the theological doctrines and what the Bible says and who has the authority over what and what the views are.
You’ll also NOTE that there is a DIFFERENCE between attacking simply INSTITUTIONS and their “teachings and doctrines” - versus - personally attacking a person.
Of course, many times a person FEELS like they are being attacked personally when someone attacks the “teachings and doctrines” of a religion. And that’s really the fault of the person “feeling attacked” - as along as that attack is based on just those teachings and doctrines and what that “institution” has done and what it’s practices are and what it’s history is.
And all that is open for discussion.
NOW ... I might say that there is a fine line here - because if people are to cooperate for political purposes (which is the aim here on this board) - then the people who run the board don’t want to alienate people who might “cooperate together” otherwise.
SO ... that’s why the Religion forum was split off to itself and it’s not for attacking people but for honest disagreements (and hopefully based on the BIBLE, itself) and attacking FALSE DOCTRINES and CULT GROUPS.
But, of course, as we all know in real life ... one person’s truth is another’s “false doctrines”. Thus we must all appeal to some HIGHER AUTHORITY ... and thus that’s where you see the battle with the Catholic Church - over “who has the higher authority” on deciding these issues.
As for myself, I take it SOLELY based on the Bible (which the Catholic Church itself has criticized as NOT VALID) ... however ... you’ve got a huge number of “honest-to-goodness Christians” who totally disagree with the Catholic Church and its doctrines and teachings - and thus TOTALLY REJECT their “higher authority” that they use to give it differing doctrines than Christians in the USA.
Well, anyway ... it’s a balance here and the main rule, I think, is to not attack people PERSONALLY ... but only deal in the DOCTRINES and TEACHINGS and expose them. That is basically what the bottom line is.
And in the end — on the political level — many people will completely put aside “religious doctrinal teachings” and just cooperate on a VERY LIMITED BASIS on very specific legislation or a particular legislator that various “religions” can agree upon (i.e., their members can agree upon).
Would yo agree with that premise?
I don't care what people in general do or do not assume. I have simply stated the facts as I know them to be, just like I always do. I have discussed the situation in more detail with people here who I happen to know personally (i.e. who I have met face to face). In those latter instances there is more involved than anonymous posts on web forums.
If so, there is also no evidence that any FReeper created a false identity on TBL just to screw you over. Yet, you have already tried to imply that that is what happened and have already discounted the idea that the false identity could have originated right out of TBL.
I look at the facts I know and make estimations about what I don't know, just like every other human being. I stand behind everything I've written on this board.
You really should give the same respect to FReepers,regarding this issue as you are demanding from them.
I am doing exactly that, as always.
Jim, I'm there with you with all my heart and soul. God bless you, God bless Free Republic, and God bless America.
If Gunner was the nominee I would crawl over glass to vote for him over Obama!!
Quix has been a blight on FR for years with his loopy baloney. I, for one, am not unhappy to see him gone.
Actually not a disciple of Quix ... but for a theological doctrinal stance ... I can give you a “basis” which has been put forth by leading Evangelicals in the USA. It’s the following “Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy” and many Evangelicals adhere to it and it forms the real basis for the authority of Scriptures and the recognition of where God’s word is applied today.
This is very well respected and is adhered to by a large number of Christians in the USA and world-wide.
Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy with Exposition
Background
The “Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy” was produced at an international Summit Conference of evangelical leaders, held at the Hyatt Regency O’Hare in Chicago in the fall of 1978. This congress was sponsored by the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy. The Chicago Statement was signed by nearly 300 noted evangelical scholars, including James Boice, Norman L. Geisler, John Gerstner, Carl F. H. Henry, Kenneth Kantzer, Harold Lindsell, John Warwick Montgomery, Roger Nicole, J. I. Packer, Robert Preus, Earl Radmacher, Francis Schaeffer, R. C. Sproul, and John Wenham.
The ICBI disbanded in 1988 after producing three major statements: one on biblical inerrancy in 1978, one on biblical hermeneutics in 1982, and one on biblical application in 1986.
The following text, containing the “Preface” by the ICBI draft committee, plus the “Short Statement,” “Articles of Affirmation and Denial,” and an accompanying “Exposition,” was published in toto by Carl F. H. Henry in God, Revelation And Authority, vol. 4 (Waco, Tx.: Word Books, 1979), on pp. 211-219.
The nineteen Articles of Affirmation and Denial, with a brief introduction, also appear in A General Introduction to the Bible, by Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix (Chicago: Moody Press, rev. 1986), at pp. 181-185. An official commentary on these articles was written by R. C. Sproul in Explaining Inerrancy: A Commentary (Oakland, Calif.: ICBI, 1980), and Norman Geisler edited the major addresses from the 1978 conference, in Inerrancy (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1980).
Clarification of some of the language used in this Statement may be found in the 1982 Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics
http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html
Well, Mr. Attorney, present your "evidence" for all to see.
SHEESH...what a lame defense.
So why do you think it impossible that some snake masquerading as a Freeper went over there to try to get rid of him by making vile posts under his name?
Anything is possible, but Rogue Yam lies every single day on FR by accusing those who refuse to vote for Romney as being Obama supporters. That is "evidence" of HIS lying in black and white.
Recent example:
The straightforward answer is that you are almost certainly a whining, lying little tool who wants Obama to win the election.
Until you can "prove" that he isn't lying about this also, you are uselessy spinning your wheels.
This whole conversation is hilarious...you're defending someone who has spent the past several weeks denigrating Jim, FR and everyone who refuses to be bullied into voting for Romney on this site, and the "evidence" available shows his doing exactly that on another site.
I really don't care what is posted on the laughable site except for the hypocrisy of dual posters (and Quix was one of them) jumping up and down on FR in their "outrage" at being outed.
I see you have no response to my post #696. How surprising.
Well.. that might be a bit of a stretch. ;-)
Good. Because everyone on this thread should be aware of it.
Or so the MSM, democrats and the GOP-e says.
The nominee is chosen at the convention in August.
Neither Obama, Hillary, Carville, Palin, Gingrich, Rouge Yam are candidates yet.
I say we continue the process of making the GOP more conservative.
Continue? The GOP has been swinging left for some time, it is NOT becoming more conservative.
Good luck.
The GOP had it 's chance with the Tea Party, and they did all they could to destroy it and the Conservative Movement
With the most despicable, underhanded, backstabbing methods imaginable.
And Romney and his henchmen were right in the middle of it. He would lie if confronted with that fact.
As I posted on another thread, these people are no better than leftists, because they will not allow you to have an opinion that is independent of their own. If you refuse to vote for Mitt Romney, you are the enemy, and from that point on their only mission is to mock you, shout you down and do everything in their power to keep your ideas from being heard.
Very sad, really. And they claim to call themselves conservatives.
As I noted earlier ... here’s a well-respected and widely held statement and position among leading Evangelicals in America (and it’s also adhered to by very many Christians world-wide, too).
This would address the issue of authority ... and the position of Christians on where that authority comes from.
Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy with Exposition
Background
The “Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy” was produced at an international Summit Conference of evangelical leaders, held at the Hyatt Regency O’Hare in Chicago in the fall of 1978. This congress was sponsored by the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy. The Chicago Statement was signed by nearly 300 noted evangelical scholars, including James Boice, Norman L. Geisler, John Gerstner, Carl F. H. Henry, Kenneth Kantzer, Harold Lindsell, John Warwick Montgomery, Roger Nicole, J. I. Packer, Robert Preus, Earl Radmacher, Francis Schaeffer, R. C. Sproul, and John Wenham.
The ICBI disbanded in 1988 after producing three major statements: one on biblical inerrancy in 1978, one on biblical hermeneutics in 1982, and one on biblical application in 1986.
The following text, containing the “Preface” by the ICBI draft committee, plus the “Short Statement,” “Articles of Affirmation and Denial,” and an accompanying “Exposition,” was published in toto by Carl F. H. Henry in God, Revelation And Authority, vol. 4 (Waco, Tx.: Word Books, 1979), on pp. 211-219.
The nineteen Articles of Affirmation and Denial, with a brief introduction, also appear in A General Introduction to the Bible, by Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix (Chicago: Moody Press, rev. 1986), at pp. 181-185. An official commentary on these articles was written by R. C. Sproul in Explaining Inerrancy: A Commentary (Oakland, Calif.: ICBI, 1980), and Norman Geisler edited the major addresses from the 1978 conference, in Inerrancy (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1980).
Clarification of some of the language used in this Statement may be found in the 1982 Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics
http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html
Likewise, I’m not voting for Romney [and to clear it up, not voting for Obama either and never have ... :-) ...]
But, I’m pretty sure that this issue wasn’t about Romney with Quix, because from what I’ve seen in the past, he would be against Romney, too.
SO WHAT?
Interpretations by other humans: Evangelicals who received the scripture from whom? The Roman Catholic Church.
This is NOT the religion forum and your post last night to STAR was vile.
I’d advise you to stop it right now today.
Christian squabbling serves no useful purpose and I’ll wager God is not pleased.
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