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Chief Justice John Roberts gives Obama and Democrats a Trojan Horse
The Washington Times Communities ^ | June 29th, 2012 | Amanda Read

Posted on 06/30/2012 11:51:37 PM PDT by SincerelyAmanda

After wounding socialism, why didn’t Roberts go for the glory and slay Obamacare while he could? Chief Justice stepped aside to let We the People do the honors.

(Excerpt) Read more at communities.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!; History; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: bullchit; mittromney; obamacare; roberts; ropeadoberoberts; ropeadope; supremecourt
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To: Washi

Amen.

I don’t know his reasoning any more than anyone else does, but he stuck it in us-——deep.


41 posted on 07/01/2012 4:43:05 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: rolling_stone

I respectfully submit that you know not of what you speak.

It was the Court’s sworn duty to determine if the law was constitutional. They did that.


42 posted on 07/01/2012 4:45:12 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: SincerelyAmanda

What an excellent article. Even if one doesn’t agree with Roberts, as I don’t (although I’m still chewing on all this stuff), you’ve done a great job of answering the question: just what the hell was he thinking?

And you’re just some kid in college? Wow, let’s hear it for bright futures.


43 posted on 07/01/2012 4:49:54 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: garandgal
The Supreme Court was mistakenly seen by conservatives and liberals alike as the arbiter of the end of the Obamacare debate. The Court would either declare the PPACA “constitutional” or “unconstitutional,” and that would be the end of the story.

No one who understands the lawless and evil nature of the curse which occupies the federal government had even a fleeting delusion that Thursday's ruling would be the "end of the story". Either Amanda and her self-contained bubble of Beltway intelligensia haven't the slightest clue what this country is truly up against, or they've made a pact with it.

I didn't think the smarter-than-you crowd could top itself after Egypt. I was wrong.

44 posted on 07/01/2012 4:51:32 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: 4rcane
so why do we even have a supreme court if they’re just a rubber stamp?

DING! Winner. The founding fathers created a framework for the Supreme Court, and Roberts FAILED to follow it!

The entire purpose of the USSC is to evaluate the laws that Congress passes and the President signs as written and passed against the Constitution.

The USSC takes the law as written and puts it up against the Constitution to determine whether or not the law is in agreement with, or violates the Constitution.

This is exactly where Roberts failed, and why the true Conservatives on the court expressed their own outrage in their dissenting opinion!

The role of the US Supreme Court has never been to re-write any law period. Yet, that is what Roberts and the liberals on the court did. They re-wrote the law to fit their needs in order to make it Constitutional.

Now, any talk about Roberts giving Conservatives a "gift" is complete, unadulterated bullshit and any talk of such is simply falling into the liberal lamestream media trap.

I'm frankly shocked to see so many on here falling for it.

I would rather the USSC have done it's job and let the political fallout land where it may than Chief Justice Roberts abscond his responsibilities via seeking approval of the lamestream media by attempting to de-politicize the court.

Roberts committed an act of cowardice not courage!

Now here are the hurdles we have to overcome this November:

1. Elect Romney. Like it or not, that's what we must do.

2. Turn the Senate over, giving Republican's at least 51 votes. 51 is the important number here since it takes 51 votes to over-turn any TAX in the Senate.

3. Keep the House of Representatives in Republican hands, and I'd say REPLACE BOEHNER as Speaker. I don't care that he's scheduling a symbolic vote (and let's face it, that's what it is) the week of July 9th. When it comes to repealing Obamacare, I doubt he has the backbone.

4. Pass legislation in the House & Senate to repeal Obamacare. There can be NO EXCUSES accepted from the Republican's if they have both houses of Congress and the White House. Once again, the Stupid Party has a way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, it is on all of us to put intense pressure on the Republican's to keep their word.

5. Romney must sign the bill, putting it into Law. Again, intense pressure required to force him to do it.

6. Finally, anyone who doesn't believe that repealing Obamacare won't face a court challenge is serioulsy kidding themselves. Once 'benefits' start flowing, Obamacare will be impossible to repeal. Historically, the USSC has ruled that once benefits stop flowing, Congress simply can't "turn them off" .. this is exactly what the USSC did with Social Security.

This is the burden that Chief Justice Roberts put on each and every one of us, because he was too much of a COWARD to actually do his job.

Are we up to the task? Lord I sure hope so. I personally wrote my first political campaign contribution check in many years the day Obamacare was ruled Constitutional by this cowardly Supreme Court. Much as I hated donating to the Romney campaign, I wrote the check for the max individual amount and sent it in. I then signed up to help the campaign here locally and now have a bunch of signs to distribute.

Don't get me wrong: I don't like Romney. He wasn't my second, third, fourth or even fifth choice. This is however the hand we've been dealt, and I'd kick myself if I didn't do everything I personally could to remove and replace Obama and ObamaCare.

One last thing: We all know Obamacare implements the largest tax increase in the history of Civilization. I have stopped referring to it as "Obamacare." I now call it the OSHIT TAX.

Obama Supremes Health Insurance Tax.

When American's wake up after Labor day, that's exactly what they're going to be saying when they realize how much their taxes are going up due to the Bush Tax Cuts expiring and the OSHIT taxes kick in.

God Save America.

45 posted on 07/01/2012 4:52:46 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: wardaddy

Correct, the Roberts Court just created a highway for congress to stick it to us and the repubs try to spin it like the highway is one way only. He took an unconstitutional bill, approved it and handed the power to Congress to force us to buy anything as long as it is a tax. Even if the election is won by repubs...think that will last forever? What items would the Repubs decide I should have to pay for? Chevy Volts? Rubbers? Roberts took the cowards way out and will never live this down. A pox on him.


46 posted on 07/01/2012 4:56:08 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Mitt better grow a pair or this thing will be over soon.)
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To: philman_36
What, in your opinion, was "rewritten" from the bench?
Congress did not vote to pass a tax bill.

If it had been considered a tax bill, it's doubtful it would have ever made it out of committee. It certainly would never had been passed. And the courts would have refused to hear the case until the taxes began being applied.

He re-wrote the bill.

47 posted on 07/01/2012 5:04:57 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: philman_36
Cute...Chief Justice Roberts pulled an Elrond.

It should be noted that Elrond and the nation he lead ended up leaving Middle Earth.


48 posted on 07/01/2012 5:05:44 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: SincerelyAmanda

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49 posted on 07/01/2012 5:11:36 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SincerelyAmanda

Bm


50 posted on 07/01/2012 5:12:17 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: SincerelyAmanda

Great article. Very insightful.

After the initial dust storm settles and we can see clearly again, we may view this decision in an entirely different light.

It is widely thought that Roberts rewrote the law, but it seems as if he might have actually allowed the the law interpret itself. In 20 places, a tax was called a tax. In only one place, a tax was called a mandate even though it was crafted and implemented in exactly the same way as the other 20 taxes were. Don’t judges often interpret the law as to intent in making decisions?

I still wish Roberts had killed the beast once and for all, but we must not pass up the opportunity to kill it in November.


51 posted on 07/01/2012 5:14:59 AM PDT by randita (Beware of those peddling fear and defeatism. They do not have our best interests at heart.)
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To: randita
In 20 places, a tax was called a tax

Stop perpetrating this lie and fraud on this forum. No, it wasn't and that is precisely why Obama's Government Lawyers argued that it was not a "tax" rather they were fines and penalties to be imposed and collected by the IRS.

Now if you want to argue "a tax by any other name is still a tax" that argument would have merit but the fact remains it didn't, and Roberts re-wrote the law in order to justify it as Constitutional.

That is a clear over-stepping of the USSC's Constitutional Mandate, as I outlined previously in this thread.

Stop falling for the liberal lamestream media bullshit.

52 posted on 07/01/2012 5:21:08 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: FredZarguna
Robert's ruling used pretzel logic.....
53 posted on 07/01/2012 5:23:34 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Rearden

4 did that. 1 decided the court can’t be seen as political by the leftist media and got cute trying to push it back to the voters so ‘his’ court doesn’t get bad press. . This is not a tax. He rewrote the law. The odds are good we never get out of this death spiral and it is due to one man


54 posted on 07/01/2012 5:42:16 AM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: SincerelyAmanda

Here’s another excellent article on the ruling:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/randy-barnett-says-roberts-tax-power-argument-is-lame-but-easily-fixed/article/2501028

Donate to some of the conservatives who have a decent chance of beating a Dem.


55 posted on 07/01/2012 5:51:02 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: SincerelyAmanda
Nice first post Amanda...

You wrote a well thought, well written piece, that is thought provoking...I agree with a lot of it...

But..you really missed the problems that plague this republic...that is the "We the People" part...

But while disabling socialism and wounding Obamacare, why didn’t Roberts go for the glory and slay the Leviathan while it was in his hands to do so?

Chief Justice stepped aside to let We the People do the honors.

A vast number of "We the people" are currently the most dumbed down, ill-educated, easily manipulated, guileless, ungodly, lazy, misinformed, unprincipled, parasites ever to inhabit the country, I'm not even including the millions of illegals here sucking off the system

These people aren't going to slay the Leviathan monster, they will enable it, feed it, give it power, and try every thing under the sun to stop us who are now burdened (thanks to Roberts) with killing this thing with all types of barriers and hurdles... thrown in the way

We have a gutless, feckless, craven, witless Congress only intent on keeping and retaining power..and that's the GOPe....the other side of the aisle are evil and malevolent toward all things that has the tinge of freedom and liberty...

We are well on the road to outright socialism, hell we are one stop away...

I'm afraid "We the People" will not save us... as much as I wish they would...

56 posted on 07/01/2012 5:58:11 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: ilgipper

If it is not a tax, the law is unconstitutional as Congress will have exceeded it’s authority. This law may only be remedied in the place of it’s origin, the US House.

If the current officeholders are reluctant to do what is necessary, we will replace them. As this is a tax law, only 50 votes will be necessary along with a Vice President. Of course the current criminals occupying the White House will need to be removed.

Another way to look at this is in regard to active judges creating legislation from the bench. For too many years to count, we conservatives have railed against judges who exceeded their authority. Now comes a Cheif Justice who insists on doing his job and no more, and look at his castigation.

He did his duty, now I will do mine, I vote.


57 posted on 07/01/2012 6:09:53 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: ilgipper

If it is not a tax, the law is unconstitutional as Congress will have exceeded it’s authority. This law may only be remedied in the place of it’s origin, the US House.

If the current officeholders are reluctant to do what is necessary, we will replace them. As this is a tax law, only 50 votes will be necessary in the Senate, along with a Vice President. Of course the current criminals occupying the White House will need to be removed.

Another way to look at this is in regard to active judges creating legislation from the bench. For too many years to count, we conservatives have railed against judges who exceeded their authority. Now comes a Cheif Justice who insists on doing his job and no more, and look at his castigation.

He did his duty, now I will do mine, I vote.


58 posted on 07/01/2012 6:10:36 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Jonty30
I think Roberts doesn’t want the Supreme Court to be the arbiter of the laws of the land. That would be the implication of his ruling. That is the Founder’s intents when they created the Supreme Court. Congress is supposed to decide these things, not the Supreme Court.

Roberts has abdicated his duty to uphold the Constitution - it's clear that what he wants is to find some way to validate the Left. If it's the 'rope-a-dope some seem to think, he still abdicated his sworn duty and opened the barn door wider than ever - heck, he knocked it off its hinges. We may get something good from it, but to consider it a brilliant desing and a plan to set things right is stretching it.

59 posted on 07/01/2012 6:13:31 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: usconservative
Do you consider the Washington Times "liberal lamestream meadia BS"?

The high court’s ruling leaves in place 21 tax increases in the health care law costing more than $675 billion over the next 10 years, according to the House Ways and Means Committee. Of those, 12 tax hikes would affect families earning less than $250,000 per year, the panel said, including a “Cadillac tax” on high-cost insurance plans, a tax on insurance providers and an excise tax on medical-device manufacturers.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/28/republicans-ruling-focuses-election-obamas-health-/

60 posted on 07/01/2012 7:30:50 AM PDT by randita (Beware of those peddling fear and defeatism. They do not have our best interests at heart.)
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