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OK is there ANY "Silver Lining" to today's ruling?
28 June 2012 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 06/28/2012 10:25:40 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

SOMEBODY give us SOME hope!


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To: Cyber Liberty

Did the umpires marry the opposing teams and the opposing fans during the seventh inning stretch?


101 posted on 06/28/2012 11:08:46 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Free Vulcan
They already do that - it’s called a fine. A fine is a tax and nothing but an attempt to polish the turd. Roberts has brought it front and center that a fine is a tax and nothing else.

Never before has every man, woman, and child been subject to a "fine" for refusing to do the government's bidding.

102 posted on 06/28/2012 11:10:19 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Everyone is livid and I understand completely why. I agree with Redstate on this one.

Nof for the rest of the panicked here...

Remember unintended consequences. A few have already been mentioned. Illegals getting healthcare...waivers/Muslim/Catholic suits...this opened a hugh and series barell of hell for the election prospects for Dems. It’s going to kill them.

Even with MR, the GOP will now have the ultimate platform to battle the Dems on. Not that that is without issues itself, but they will get the house, senate and exec...and by a significant margin.

Again folks, I am pissed off too. It should have been tossed wholesale. But get out of panic mode and realize that there is some good to come from this. It is up to US to ensure that we don’t toss it away.

Or we just give up now. The choice is ours. Period.


103 posted on 06/28/2012 11:11:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: tentmaker
Roberts did his job by upholding the Constitution.

BS. This is no longer about just Obamacare. The precedent has been set that the government can force you to do anything as long as they call it a tax. You have lost your liberty and don't even know it. Stop the crap. This dicision violates the Constitution.

104 posted on 06/28/2012 11:12:19 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Sybeck1

Gun sales might increase along with the beer. Hey maybe they will have to hire some clerks to keep up with the increased sales.


105 posted on 06/28/2012 11:13:58 AM PDT by Eeyore4651
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To: US Navy Vet

More of your countrymen realize that they are now slaves of a corrupt regime & are starting to get organized .

More of your countrymen will get pissed at the lickspittle GOP~e that were to cowardly to fight with all their heart & soul & instead tried to be accomidateing to the Democrats who were in favor of slavery in the 1860’s when slaves were private property & who are still in favor of slavery now that the slave is property of the state.

More of your countrymen will buy copies of the book RESISTANCE TO TYRANY by Joseph P. Martino ,more of your countrymen will read this book learn from it & act on that knowlege.

More of your countrymen will prepare for when the slaveowner wannabes decide to make a few examples to resist with extreme prejudice.


106 posted on 06/28/2012 11:14:22 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: US Navy Vet

Silver Lining: This is one of my favorite vanity posts.


107 posted on 06/28/2012 11:15:11 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Servant of the Cross

She Stoops to Conquer.

Think of the legend of Emily West Morgan - the Yellow Rose of Texas - keeping Santa Anna distracted at the battle of San Juacinto.


108 posted on 06/28/2012 11:16:44 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Dysart

“We just witnessed a slap-down of the power to regulate our lives via the commerce clause. That is hugh.”

Oh, boy. That’s like instead of being annoyed by a bee at a picnic now I’m beign strafed by a F-16.

Let’s review: the commerce clause does not extend to regulating non-activity. Okay, but it still applies to any activity whatsoever without it having to be commerce or interstate. However, Congress has been affirmed in its power to mandate me to do anything whatsoever, so long as the penalty for not doing it is called a tax. That’s a gift of the magi.


109 posted on 06/28/2012 11:16:54 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree with Restate as well - it IS up to us. WE elect the people in Congress ... Congress votes taxes. If we continue to elect the type of people we’ve been electing, we’ll continue to get what we voted for. We can change this around, the question is whether there is the collective ‘will’ to do it. Obama may have given an ‘upbeat’ sort of speech, but he’s in deep trouble now that the TAX has been hung around his neck with a chain and padlocked by the court. The “less educated” (for lack of a better term) may ignore ‘individual mandate’, but mention ‘more taxes’ and they’ll go nuts.


110 posted on 06/28/2012 11:18:02 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: prisoner6

I know I will be. I just wish some of our freeper brethren would get the message and stop fighting for our enemy by promising to stay home. This is for all the marbles...sorry we don’t have that pretty blue one you’ve had your eye on...play anyway.


111 posted on 06/28/2012 11:19:57 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Dysart

Well the former atty general just admonished the rats to be wary of smoking the ‘exploding cigar.’ We just witnessed a slap-down of the power to regulate our lives via the commerce clause. That is hugh.


hugh who? Just trying to lighten the moment.


112 posted on 06/28/2012 11:21:04 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: All

Silver lining?

1- We know Roberts is a good punter

2- We know we can’t depend on his court upholding the constitution therefore we need to stay engaged.

3- We know we will have more energy on our side in November.


113 posted on 06/28/2012 11:21:14 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: gas_dr
Nice post, Doc.

I have not had a chance to read the opinion yet and have not read the ACA. Maybe you can help me think through this. The Court said that the commerce clause does not give the government the power to mandate that people buy insurance. So that tells me the ACA didn't mandate that people buy insurance. If it said that, the mandate would not be constitutional because it exceeded government power. So the ACA must instead say that anybody who doesn't buy insurance will pay this fine, which has now been defined as a tax. As a tax, a repeal can pass the Senate with only a simple majority. Or, if it is not repealed, after paying the tax someone could appeal the legality of the tax. Is that a correct analysis?

114 posted on 06/28/2012 11:21:14 AM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: kevkrom

There’s an FR article practically every other day about somebody getting fined by some level of govt for not doing something the govt mandates. Helmet laws, seat belt laws - and the EPA is a master of issuing inaction fines from regs they’ve cooked up unbeknown by the taxpayers.


115 posted on 06/28/2012 11:21:52 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: US Navy Vet

New Tea Party Rally on the Hill in D.C. We need ONE this fall!


116 posted on 06/28/2012 11:23:10 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: US Navy Vet

If the Stupid Party plays their cards correctly, this can spell trouble down-ticket for the Dim Senators and Representatives who voted for The Largest Tax Increase Ever Passed, Anywhere or Anytime.

Women, minorities and children hit hardest.


117 posted on 06/28/2012 11:23:57 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: US Navy Vet

My only “hope” is that the Feds have so over-extended themselves, they will go bankrupt, despite all the efforts of the Cental Bank.

It won’t be pretty, but it’s the only way I see to restore rights to states and local governments .


118 posted on 06/28/2012 11:24:01 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: US Navy Vet

As usual, in times of darkness, go to my guiding Freeper light and those wise minds who reassure and placate through deliberation.
And it seems, in looking at the decision stating that oblahcare is a tax and all the Constitutional ways of dealing with a tax, the libs on the Court as well as Roberts have just shown that the libdim party who emphasized up and down that oblahcare was NOT a tax, have proven themselves to be the lying liars they really are.
Now will anyone care...


119 posted on 06/28/2012 11:24:29 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: US Navy Vet

A silver lining?

You mean, like the end of the book “1984”?

You remember, where Winston, who was on his way to Room 101, heroically attacked the guards escorting him, broke into Julia’s cell and rescued her and fought his way to freedom. Then he came back to the Ministry of Love with a Tommy gun, a .45 and a bazooka, singlehandedly killed all the guards, wasted O’Brien, and then cornered Big Brother in his office, ripped off his mustache, and filled him with lead while yelling, “Death to tyranny! Long live the proles!”

No, wait......sorry about that.

“1984” ends with Winston getting drunk on cheap, nasty Victory Gin, a tear in his eye, his heart filled with love for Big Brother and Ingsoc, happily awaiting the bullet in the back of his neck so he could die loving the Party.

George Orwell was a remarkable observer of human nature, and more often than not, he was accurate. This, ultimately, is how people are. They will come to accept the loss of freedom, because the concept of security matters more than being free.

“Do you want a picture of the future, Winston? Imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.”

There are only two kinds of men who are truly free; those who choose to live outside the law, and those who are dead. - AnAmericanAbroad.


120 posted on 06/28/2012 11:24:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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