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Another Stephan Rahmstorf sea level scare
watts Up With That? ^ | June 24, 2012 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 06/25/2012 9:32:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

From the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) another Stephan Rahmstorf scare projection, so important they couldn’t even wait for it to be put on the NCC website before sending off this press release to Eurekalert (see weblink at end of story which is DOA as of 10PM PST 6/24).

Significant sea-level rise in a 2-degree warming world

Sea levels around the world can be expected to rise by several meters in coming centuries, if global warming carries on

The study is the first to give a comprehensive projection for this long perspective, based on observed sea-level rise over the past millennium, as well as on scenarios for future greenhouse-gas emissions.

“Sea-level rise is a hard to quantify, yet critical risk of climate change,” says Michiel Schaeffer of Climate Analytics and Wageningen University, lead author of the study. “Due to the long time it takes for the world’s ice and water masses to react to global warming, our emissions today determine sea levels for centuries to come.”

Limiting global warming could considerably reduce sea-level rise

While the findings suggest that even at relatively low levels of global warming the world will have to face significant sea-level rise, the study also demonstrates the benefits of reducing greenhouse-gas emissions. Limiting global warming to below 1.5 degrees Celsius and subsequent temperature reductions could halve sea-level rise by 2300, compared to a 2-degree scenario. If temperatures are allowed to rise by 3 degrees, the expected sea-level rise could range between 2 and 5 metres, with the best estimate being at 3.5 metres.

The potential impacts are significant. “As an example, for New York City it has been shown that one metre of sea level rise could raise the frequency of severe flooding from once per century to once every three years,” says Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, co-author of the study. Also, low lying deltaic countries like Bangladesh and many small island states are likely to be severely affected.

Sea-level rise rate defines the time for adaptation

The scientists further assessed the rate of sea-level rise. The warmer the climate gets, the faster the sea level climbs. “Coastal communities have less time to adapt if sea-levels rise faster,” Rahmstorf says.

“In our projections, a constant level of 2-degree warming will sustain rates of sea-level rise twice as high as observed today, until well after 2300,” adds Schaeffer, “but much deeper emission reductions seem able to achieve a strong slow-down, or even a stabilization of sea level over that time frame.”

Building on data from the past

Previous multi-century projections of sea-level rise reviewed by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) were limited to the rise caused by thermal expansion of the ocean water as it heats up, which the IPCC found could reach up to a metre by 2300. However, this estimate did not include the potentially larger effect of melting ice, and research exploring this effect has considerably advanced in the last few years. The new study is using a complementary approach, called semi-empirical, that is based on using the connection between observed temperature and sea level during past centuries in order to estimate sea-level rise for scenarios of future global warming.

“Of course it remains open how far the close link between temperature and global sea level found for the past will carry on into the future,” says Rahmstorf. “Despite the uncertainty we still have about future sea level, from a risk perspective our approach provides at least plausible, and relevant, estimates.”

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Article: Schaeffer, M., Hare, W., Rahmstorf, S., Vermeer, M. (2012): Long-term sea-level rise implied by 1.5° C and 2° C warming levels. Nature Climate Change [doi:10.1038/NCLIMATE158] (Advance Online Publication)

Weblink to the article when it is published on June 24th: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/NCLIMATE158

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UPDATE: The link above is as published at Eurekalert. The bolding of “when” is mine. Harold W points out in comments:

Correct link to the article is http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/NCLIMATE1584 [Published link lacked the final digit], or alternatively http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1584.html



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; sealevelscare
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1 posted on 06/25/2012 9:32:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Much is made of ocean volume increasing as temperature increases, but won’t the earth’s crust also expand if it is heated?

Seems to me that the bucket will expand at the same rate as the water in it.

Imagine how frightened these people would be if the sea level was dropping 6’. coral reefs, harbors, their beach front property, etc. would be in peril.


2 posted on 06/25/2012 9:37:11 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; ...
Was reading this thread:

Sea levels rising on US East Coast faster than anywhere else (3 times faster than global average)

....And thought to myself,....what is being posted on my favorite website regarding the Global Warming Hoax and scam....

So I found this article.

3 posted on 06/25/2012 9:37:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: SampleMan
Much is made of ocean volume increasing as temperature increases, but won’t the earth’s crust also expand if it is heated?

The concern is melting ice from land like Greenland and Antarctica adding to the sea volume. Not a concern over expansion of the same amount of water due to temp rise.

4 posted on 06/25/2012 9:39:54 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SampleMan
See #3....This is the Global Governance Crowd,...trying their best to keep the Scam going....using their propaganda devices....MSM as the primary vehicle,.
5 posted on 06/25/2012 9:41:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The oceans were about 20 to 30 feet higher about 7,000 years ago than they are today. Another ice age should be starting any time and when that happens watch sea level drop about 400 to 500 feet where the edge of the continental shelves are located.


6 posted on 06/25/2012 9:47:50 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I read somewhere the other day (probably on here, since this is where I get ALL my real news) that it isn't so much that the sea levels are rising as much as the shoreline is sinking in some areas. And, wouldn't the levels be changing at the same rate pretty much everywhere, if the water was truly "increasing?" If water seeks its own level (something I learned in grade school science), wouldn't this be in effect?
7 posted on 06/25/2012 9:52:25 AM PDT by redhead (What did the Socialist use for light before candles? Electricity.)
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To: thackney

It’s all part of the Global sam.....the Warmists are meeting in RIO....


8 posted on 06/25/2012 9:57:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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From the comments at WUWT on the article:

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cartoonasaur says:

June 24, 2012 at 10:36 pm

The modern witch hunt: invent a future witch that is going to burn THE FUTURE WORLD – then save the world by burning the present economy… Weird, huh?

9 posted on 06/25/2012 10:06:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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M says:

June 24, 2012 at 10:44 pm

Still, there appear to be some who are not embarrassed by co-authoring with Rahmstorf.

And that’s the memo.

10 posted on 06/25/2012 10:20:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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Eric.H. says:

June 24, 2012 at 10:47 pm

” If temperatures are allowed to rise by 3 degrees, the expected sea-level rise could range between 2 and 5 metres, with the best estimate being at 3.5 metres.”

How are we going to get from 1.5mm per year to 3.5 meters in 288 years?

11 posted on 06/25/2012 10:21:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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Geoff Sherrington says:

June 24, 2012 at 10:47 pm

Can anyone please reconcile these two apparent statements in conflict:
“One important change in these releases is that we are now adding a correction of 0.3 mm/year due to Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA), so you may notice that the rate of sea level rise is now 0.3 mm/year higher than earlier releases. ” http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

“Xiaoping Wu of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, led an international group of scientists that applied a new data calculation technique and subsequently determined that the average change in Earth’s radius is 0.004 inches (0.1 millimeters) per year, or about the thickness of a human hair, a rate considered statistically insignificant.” http://earthsky.org/earth/nasa-confirms-earth-isnt-expanding

Is it not blindly obvious that one is wrong?

12 posted on 06/25/2012 10:24:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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Bill Tuttle says:

June 24, 2012 at 10:47 pm

“Due to the long time it takes for the world’s ice and water masses to react to global warming, our emissions today determine sea levels for centuries to come.”

Everybody take a deep breath and exhale, then — my investment in beachfront property in Phoenix is looking a little shaky right now…

13 posted on 06/25/2012 10:27:09 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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James Sexton says:

June 24, 2012 at 11:22 pm

“The new study is using a complementary approach, called semi-empirical, that is based on using the connection between observed temperature and sea level during past centuries in order to estimate sea-level rise for scenarios of future global warming.”
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What a fantastic claim! They used the plural? As in we have empirical knowledge of global temps and sea level for more than one century? No we don’t. We don’t even have empirical knowledge of our last century’s temps and we certainly don’t for our sea levels. Semi-empirical? More like more of the delusional fantasies of a dying occupation of sooth-saying.

We can’t even use our satellite date for such calculations because they keep moving the numbers around. Forget what they did with Envisat. That was just the warmup. Here’s my latest look at Jason II. It includes the last 4 screen captures I did with Aviso. http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/jason-ii-the-changeling/ They keep moving the numbers!

How doesn’t one calculate anything when the numbers they’re using are dynamic? I’d be most interested in seeing what they used for calculating temps, and sea levels.

14 posted on 06/25/2012 10:28:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: thackney

Actually its both. Because so much ice would have to melt to raise sea levels, they get a lot of their instant sea level rise from this concept of expansion.

I like to ask libtards how increasing Antarctica’s mean interior temperature of -70 F by a few degrees is going to cause the massive ice sheet melt off, especially at the rates required (thousands of feet in thickness) to reach the sea-level rise they predict.


15 posted on 06/25/2012 10:34:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; thackney; redhead; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; ...

See # 14 for an observation from a researchers about the Data manipulation.....


16 posted on 06/25/2012 10:34:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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Serious Scientists working in the field are NOT BUYING all of this CRAPOLA!!

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17 posted on 06/25/2012 10:41:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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Peter Miller says:

June 24, 2012 at 11:37 pm

I have got to start writing stuff like this, I hear they pay you very well for this type of fiction.

18 posted on 06/25/2012 10:47:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“What a fantastic claim! They used the plural? As in we have empirical knowledge of global temps and sea level for more than one century? No we don’t. We don’t even have empirical knowledge of our last century’s temps and we certainly don’t for our sea levels. Semi-empirical? More like more of the delusional fantasies of a dying occupation of sooth-saying.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise

On the timescale of years and decades, sea level records contain a considerable amount of variability.[22] For example, approximately a 10 mm rise and fall of global mean sea level accompanied the 1997–1998 El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) event. Interannual or longer variability is a major reason why no long-term acceleration of sea level has been identified using 20th century data alone. However, a range of evidence clearly shows that the rate of sea level rise increased between the mid-19th and mid-20th centuries.[23] Evidence for this includes geological observations, the longest instrumental records and the observed rate of 20th century sea level rise. For example, geological observations indicate that during the last 2,000 years, sea level change was small, with an average rate of only 0.0 to 0.2 mm per year. This compares to an average rate of 1.7±0.5 mm per year for the 20th century.

For the past 6,000 years, the world’s sea level gradually approached the current level. During the previous interglacial about 120,000 years ago, sea level was for a short time about 6 metres (20 ft) higher than today, as evidenced by wave-cut notches along cliffs in the Bahamas. There are also Pleistocene coral reefs left stranded about 3 metres above today’s sea level along the southwestern coastline of West Caicos Island in the West Indies. These once-submerged reefs and nearby paleo-beach deposits indicate that sea level spent enough time at that higher level to allow reefs to grow (exactly where this extra sea water came from—Antarctica or Greenland—has not yet been determined). Similar evidence of geologically recent sea level positions is abundant around the world.


19 posted on 06/25/2012 10:49:21 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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20 posted on 06/25/2012 10:49:35 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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