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Technical Question for you Mech Engineers and Handy Types
6.19.12 | Chickensoup

Posted on 06/19/2012 6:05:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup

Let's talk washers and dryers.

The washers and dryers today have sensors to meet EPA Standards.

I want to put a big frontloader washer and dryer in my garage which hardly ever gets too cold. When the plumber looked at the set up he said, you are right, there is no danger of the pipes freezing, however, there is water in all the sensors of the washers (and probably dryers) and that minute amount of water will freeze and ruin the sensor and render the equipment inoperable.

I have been thinking about this. Is there a way to find a good workhorse big frontloader washer and dryer, bypass the electronics and just have them have mechanical dials that do wash spin rinse repeat, or time the dry of x minutes? Without sensors. so the only water I need to concern my self with would be the pipe in and the drain?

Your input appreciated.


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To: gorush

...don’t buy a front-loading washer.

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Why?

I would be at the laundromat every week or two at 30 to 40 dollars a visit.


41 posted on 06/19/2012 6:46:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: gorush; Chickensoup

Even the top loaders have sensors now. We bought my 98 year old mom a new washer this winter — had Seaars deliver it to her in CA. She wanted a top loader. We were out there this month because she broke her leg. We had to do some wash at her house. These new fangled machines do not work like the old ones. The sensor controls the water level so that you do not waste water when you do small loads.

You put the clothers in and the sensor starts and stops the machine 3 times before it starts the cycle. Drives you crazy and takes forever to do a load of wash, even though I had it set for only one rinse. Looks like I’ll hang on to my 27 year old Whirlpool set a little longer — until it dies.


42 posted on 06/19/2012 6:46:59 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: mamelukesabre

Buy a used set of commercial washer/dryers. they won’t be cheap.

I am not sure I am that rich, but I will look into it.


43 posted on 06/19/2012 6:47:37 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Salve

Wait a minute friend.. climate you are living in? Winter, Spring, Summer, Autum? Tempetures?

Merci.


44 posted on 06/19/2012 6:47:57 PM PDT by MCSP2008 (Romanian native > ESL)
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To: Chickensoup
Northern New England?

Fagetaboudit. You have many days of teens weather outside, and probably many nights of single digits or lower during the course of a winter. There is no way your garage stays above freezing all winter long. The pipes in the wall may be OK, but not the washer.

If you can't take the basement steps anymore, you can do what my in-laws did and convert a spare bedroom into a first floor laundry.

45 posted on 06/19/2012 6:48:22 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You put the clothers in and the sensor starts and stops the machine 3 times before it starts the cycle. Drives you crazy and takes forever to do a load of wash, even though I had it set for only one rinse. Looks like I’ll hang on to my 27 year old Whirlpool set a little longer — until it dies.

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If you have a 27 year old Whirlpool, recusitate it over and over and over. You will not be able to find anything comperable.


46 posted on 06/19/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: MCSP2008

Oh, it gets down to really really cold, but the snow is very insulating.


47 posted on 06/19/2012 6:50:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Yo-Yo

but not the washer.

What part of the washer cannot handle it???


48 posted on 06/19/2012 6:52:06 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
"I dont think that there are big old frontloaders available. Are there?"

I found one, but I don't think it would fit in the garage.


49 posted on 06/19/2012 6:52:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: tacticalogic

You might consider getting one of those little electric “chickehouse” heaters, put it inside the washer, and throw a tarp over both the washer and dryer to keep the heat in.
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I should probabley put the washer in my chickenhouse.


50 posted on 06/19/2012 6:53:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: tacticalogic

You might consider getting one of those little electric “chickehouse” heaters, put it inside the washer, and throw a tarp over both the washer and dryer to keep the heat in.
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I should probabley put the washer in my chickenhouse. the girls will keep it warm!


51 posted on 06/19/2012 6:54:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

There are plenty of things that will make a washer fail, filters, solenoid valves, boards...so why add a door under the water level that counts on a gasket to keep the water from filling your house. If your gasket fails the washer will keep filling until a sensor is activated...what if the sensor isn’t activated? You are paying for a feature that they have convinced you that you need...yet you certainly don’t.


52 posted on 06/19/2012 6:54:05 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Chickensoup

Has a front-load washer in a shed behind the house for two years - no heat. I had no problems. This was in central Mississippi so we are not talking about sever freezes for prolonged times.


53 posted on 06/19/2012 6:55:18 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Yo-Yo

If you can’t take the basement steps anymore,

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I dance up and down my basement stairs! it is about needing it to be centrally located in the only space I have in the house.


54 posted on 06/19/2012 6:55:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

:{) I rest my case.


55 posted on 06/19/2012 6:56:57 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Rebelbase

I found one, but I don’t think it would fit in the garage.

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No but my son who is taking courses in heavy equipment operations would love me forever.


56 posted on 06/19/2012 6:57:13 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Ma’am I’m from a similar area. Please, take my advice. Don’t stick your washer in the garage.


57 posted on 06/19/2012 6:57:52 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Chickensoup
What part of the washer cannot handle it???

As I said before, the hoses from the wall spigots to the washer, the internal piping from the water inlets to the solenoid water valves, and the valves themselves. And if they burst, it will spray water until you notice it and turn off the water, which could be days.

Unless your garage is fully insulated and heated, it will get too cold in your garage. I live in Lansing, Michigan, and my garage is fully insulated and attached to the house, so that some heat leaks through the walls to the garage and keeps it warmer than the outside temperature. After I replaced my steel garage door with an insulated garage door, it even stays warm enough that we can keep cases of pop in the garage all winter long without it freezing. But sometimes it gets so cold that it turns to shush when you open it. I'd never trust a washer in my garage.

58 posted on 06/19/2012 6:59:36 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: gorush

so why add a door under the water level that counts on a gasket to keep the water from filling your house. If your gasket fails the washer will keep filling until a sensor is activated...what if the sensor isn’t activated? You are paying for a feature that they have convinced you that you need...yet you certainly don’t.

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I need BIG capacity washer.


59 posted on 06/19/2012 6:59:44 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

So buy a big washer...I suggest it not be a front loader.


60 posted on 06/19/2012 7:01:07 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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