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Microsoft Is In Serious Danger Of Flying Straight Into A Mountain With Windows 8
Business Insider ^ | 06/07/2012 | Jay Yarrow

Posted on 06/07/2012 7:00:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Removing the Start Menu from Windows is like removing the steering wheel from a new car model. It is NOT an improvement or a “new” way of driving! It
s a wreck in the making is what it is.

Metro UI itself may be barely acceptable on a credit-card sized touch-screen device, but is 100% useless on a desktop or laptop screen, pretty much akin to stripping your kitchen of all cooking utensils except for a bowl and a pan.

If MS persists with this insanity when they release W8 to the public, I will be buying some LEAP Puts on a PC-tech index fund.


21 posted on 06/07/2012 7:25:25 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Nervous Tick

LOL!
I have to deal with *spit* Vista on the one laptop here.
I’m finding all kinds of things that Vista doesn’t play well with.


22 posted on 06/07/2012 7:25:25 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: VanDeKoik
> Usual group of anti-Microsoft Apple and Linux loudmouths complain yet again about the next version of Windows. Say it will fail as usual.

That's a lame excuse and you know it.

Find the independent reviewers or users or developers, ones who AREN'T either getting paid by Microsoft and who don't earn their bread by giving Lewinsky service to Microsoft for some other outfit -- just regular unbiased reviewers, users, developers -- who have a strong positive opinion of Win8 after using it for a while.

Few and far between, FRiend.

Microsoft is murdering its golden goose. Win7 is terrific -- fast, stable, secure. I can't fathom why they're killing it off, except that they're intent on committing seppuku in an effort to become relevant in the mobile space, something they can't seem to get their minds wrapped around.

23 posted on 06/07/2012 7:25:42 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: DBrow
Who puts their documents in “My Documents”?

I do (or used to before I started keeping most things in Dropbox instead). But with lots of subfolders, and of course having the "My Documents" folder mapped to my directory on an NAS.

24 posted on 06/07/2012 7:25:51 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: SeekAndFind
He thinks Microsoft will be safe because it has so many other lines of business that are strong.

Spare us from clueless pundits such as these who can't see the forest for the trees. Microsoft's market share in other areas is due almost entirely to their OS market share.

25 posted on 06/07/2012 7:26:10 AM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: dayglored

Windows 7?

You mean the last Windows OS people said was terrible and “ruined” the perfection of XP, which was said to have ruined the perfection from Windows 2000?


26 posted on 06/07/2012 7:27:02 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Maybe their strategy is to force everyone onto tablets and phones by making the PC form factor OS unusable.”

Yes, that seems to be the strategy.
For about two years or so now we’ve been hearing that “The desktop computer is dead!”

Only because they are trying to force it to be so..


27 posted on 06/07/2012 7:27:20 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: DBrow

I put my documents in “My Documents” - but only because, after years of fighting with Windows over the issue, I finally relented and let it put them where it wants.

On a related tangent, I’m upgrading from WinXP to OS X. With all the anti-user UX misfeatures, Vista wasn’t happening. Hardware requirements, just to get no additional software benefit, meant Win7 was pointless. And now Win8 is going to take millions of pixels and terabytes of storage and give us ... AOL. Hello, Xcode...


28 posted on 06/07/2012 7:28:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: AMiller

I agree.

And who are the largest users of desktops and laptops? Businesses, gamers, etc. This alone is a huge install base.

What will wind up happening is Microsuck will have to support Windows 7 AND 8 at the same time because businesses will refuse to port.

I work in the control engineering industry. Trust me, nobody is going to run an oil refinery using Windows 8 tiles. Ain’t ever going to happen.


29 posted on 06/07/2012 7:29:02 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: All

critics liked betamax too.


30 posted on 06/07/2012 7:29:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DBrow
Who puts their documents in “My Documents”?

I do, albeit usually in individual project subfolders.

Where do you put your documents?

31 posted on 06/07/2012 7:30:51 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: catnipman

So how is it?

You press the Windows key on the key board, and you select a program.

Why is this now something that is so beyond average people to grasp? All of a sudden users are acting as if they practically live in their Start Menu. The last time I actually did anything other than use the frequently used program list must have been months ago.

Just for fun I just clicked on the “all programs” button and I have a god awful list of tiny icons and small black text on white backgrounds.

But we are to think this is the apex of GUI design that MS should not dare move away from?


32 posted on 06/07/2012 7:33:50 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Win7 already has plenty of annoyances. From what I have read, I intend to skip 8, just like I skipped VISTA.

Ribbon menus. Jumping-jack file explorer. Aero screen shaker. Search-and-you-might-find links.

7 makes me pine for XP. However, Win7 does utilize more memory and it is better with graphics/video intensive websites.

MS would have been smart to create a full XP theme for Win7.


33 posted on 06/07/2012 7:34:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TheRhinelander

Actually I wouldn’t trust anyone that says what tech any company will be using 2 years from now.

Because those are the same geniuses that said that:

Windows 95 is just too confusing to be of any use at a serious office. We have DOS and that’s all we need.

No one is going to ever upgrade to XP in my office. It looks like something from Playskool!

No one is going to install Windows7 (Vista service pack) in my firm!

iPad? Who’s ever going to use that toy! My IT guys laughed when I asked them if they plan on getting any.


34 posted on 06/07/2012 7:38:48 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: AMiller
To run on Pads and Phones Windows had to be streamlined (dumbed down) to run faster with less power.

A motorcycle is not a Mack Truck cut down to just Cummings Diesel engine and two 36" tires.
A truck is not a stretched Austin Mini.

If there is a need for commonality, it must be a microkernel layered with whatever drivers & interfaces the platform can handle. Scaling from 3" to 27" screen should bring more information/capability to view, not just more pixels rendering the same single-function buttons.

Yes, M$ is shooting itself in the foot ... using a 600m, 12ga slugs, a Serbu Super Shorty, and a distance of 1".

35 posted on 06/07/2012 7:39:10 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: DBrow
The stated goal of Office 2007 was to alter the way people worked (which is why they had no “revert to the old way” button), so it’s not too surprising that they’d try to change the way we use the OS.

Then Office 2010 changed the way Office 2007 worked.

I swear that Microsoft changes their interfaces just to justify the existance of all those interface programmers.

36 posted on 06/07/2012 7:44:09 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: dayglored

“That’s a lame excuse and you know it.

Find the independent reviewers or users or developers, ones who AREN’T either getting paid by Microsoft and who don’t earn their bread by giving Lewinsky service to Microsoft for some other outfit — just regular unbiased reviewers, users, developers — who have a strong positive opinion of Win8 after using it for a while.”

Oh please!

It is the SAME group of people writing the same lame “OMG M$ sucks”!!! reviews of every MS OS since Windows 95.

And every time they look like idiots when actual people use it, dont act like little drama queens at having to learn something different, and actually grow to like it.

Then in a few years they are screaming when something they were told from “unbiased” reviewers was horrible is slightly altered because now they cant live without it.

Like what OS hasnt gone through some major UI changes? And what person would actually expect them not to?


37 posted on 06/07/2012 7:45:12 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: DBrow

“Who puts their documents in “My Documents”?”

People who work in enterprise environments and want their redirected profiles to be backed up.


38 posted on 06/07/2012 7:52:16 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Maceman

In project folders on a separate drive. C is for executables and system, other drives are for project folders with project-related files.

Most people I know do this.

Maybe that’s a bad example of a Microsoft workaround, I’ll see if I can find the article I read.


39 posted on 06/07/2012 7:52:51 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: VanDeKoik

but these critics know EVERYTHING, just ask them.

remember MS is not reaaaally sitting on cash. It is still just a little company. We are still using wordstar dot commands. Wordperfect is still a wannabe.

and their waste product produces the aroma of wild orchids.

(/s)

(for those in rio linda....)


40 posted on 06/07/2012 7:53:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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