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JAPANESE BOMB DUTCH HARBOR, ALASKA, TWICE; ROMMEL DRIVES WIDE WEDGE IN LIBYAN LINE (6/4/42)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library
| 6/4/42
| Joseph M. Levy, George Axelsson, Harold Denny, Hanson W. Baldwin
Posted on 06/04/2012 4:08:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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Due to the delay here is the next post scheduled for 0918 hrs. Midway time.

John Toland, The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945
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posted on
06/04/2012 1:37:17 PM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
I love the part about Rommel bawling out captured British generals about their stupid tactics.
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06/04/2012 1:42:30 PM PDT
by
InMemoriam
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To: tcrlaf
If the Japanese hadn’t stuck with the dogma of ‘air wing only with assigned carrier’, they could have transferred pilots, planes and aircrew from the badly damaged SHOKAKU to the undamaged, but significantly under aircrewed ZUIKAKU [heavy aircraft lossesd at Coral Sea], and sent one of the two largest aircraft carriers [aircraft wise] with the other four. ZUIKAKU would have tipped the scales.
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06/04/2012 1:44:01 PM PDT
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PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
The KIDO BUTAI could not raise their speed to 30 knots. KAGA was a converted battleship hull [AKAGI had bee laid down as a battlecruiser], and her top speed was no more than 26 knots [and may have been less]. Until her sinking, she was the albatross around KIDO BUTAI’s neck. Movements had to conform to KAGA’s speed limitations.
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06/04/2012 1:49:11 PM PDT
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PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: PzLdr
“If the Japanese hadnt stuck with the dogma of air wing only with assigned carrier”
In fairness, Japanese Carriers weren’t standardized, with each class having different designs and unique problems, like approach, etc.
Landing on Junyo, for instance, presented an entirely different set of issues for a pilot than landing on Hiryo.
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06/04/2012 2:20:40 PM PDT
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tcrlaf
(Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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John Toland, The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945




Herman Wouk, War and Remembrance
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posted on
06/04/2012 2:26:58 PM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: tcrlaf
That may be true, but SHOKAKU and ZUIKAKU were sister ships of the same class. I really doubt SHOKAKU’s pilots would have had any trouble flying off, or onto her. This is just a classic example of the rigidity that doomed the Japanese navy.
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06/04/2012 2:40:37 PM PDT
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PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: InMemoriam
Hell, that’s nothing. Once when he was wandering around a very porous battlefield, he pulled up to a British field hospital. When the chief doctor came out, and obviously had no clue that his visitor was Rommel [he thought he was a Polish general], he asked Rommel to inspect the hospital and perhaps, spend some time with the wounded.
Rommel did just that, visiting both Empire troops, and wounded German POWs [who were surprised, to say the least]. Then he hopped on ‘Mammut’, his captured Britsh command vehicle, and tore off into the desert.
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06/04/2012 2:46:48 PM PDT
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PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
For your evening broadcast, MBS is first with reports on the Midway battle. Unfortunately, it is complete garbage. It will be a few days before the next reports come out. Hopefully they will be better. Enjoy this one though.
MBS - Captain William Graves on the Battle of Midway
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posted on
06/04/2012 4:49:54 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
To: PzLdr
I agree with this assessment. I was a cultural issue more so than a military one. I am currently reading the book “Japanese Intelligence in World War II” by Ken Kotani and I’m finding the same issue here. The intelligence gathering failures are more based on cultural rigidness than it is any failures in ability, or technology for that matter.
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06/04/2012 4:53:48 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
- Admiral Spruance decides to launch his attack on the Japanese fleet at the extreme end of his planes range. In total it consisted of 68 dive-bombers, thirty torpedo planes, and 20 fighters.
- After the first strike on Midway by the Japanese, despite some significant damage, the base is not really reduced, and most of its anti-aircraft works are still operational. In the strike 38 Japanese planes are lost and another thirty are too heavily damaged to fly again, a loss of over 60 percent of the aircraft sent.
- At 11:00 the Japanese carrier Hiryu, the only remaining Japanese carrier in the Midway strike force that was not sinking, launched two waves of dive-bombers and torpedo planes against the Yorktown. The carrier was hit by three bombs and two torpedoes causing the commander to order "Abandon Ship!"
- At 7:15 am Nagumo decides to begin rearming his planes for another attack on Midway. At 7:28 am a delayed scout plane from the cruiser Tone report enemy ships bearing 10 degrees. At the same time, dive bombers from Midway led by Major Lofton Henderson attacked the Japanese formation causing no damage.
- At 8:30 Admiral Fletcher finally decides to launch all his torpedo planes and half his dive-bombers along with a few fighters. He holds the rest of his force back as a contingency.
- At a conference at the Harnack House many top German officials here the implications of an atomic bomb for the first time. Some of those at the meeting were Speer, Fromme, and tank designer Ferdinand Porsche.
- Late in the day, American carrier planes located the Hiryu and left her in sinking condition. All in all, four Japanese carriers had been sunk in this single day of air battles.
- Nagumo begins launching his aircraft against Midway. As a precaution, only half of his planes are allocated in this first strike with the rest held in the event that enemy carriers are spotted in the area.
- Shortly after Midway patrols locate Nagumo's carriers, all of Midway's attack aircraft are launched against the Japanese strike force.
- The Kaga was struck by four bombs which destroyed the island superstructure and set off the munitions on the flight deck.
- The Soryu was struck by a bomb that blew away the forward flight elevator. Subsequently, two more bombs exploded among the fuel and munitions on the hanger deck.
- Three dive bombers from the Enterprise strike the Akagi scoring two bomb hits that set off the fuel and munitions strewn across the deck in the ship's rearming effort.
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posted on
06/04/2012 5:06:50 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
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06/04/2012 5:12:02 PM PDT
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henkster
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All diagrams posted are from Parshall & Tully, "Shattered Sword; the Untold Story of the Battle of Midway."
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06/04/2012 5:13:57 PM PDT
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henkster
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06/04/2012 5:14:48 PM PDT
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henkster
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06/04/2012 5:15:46 PM PDT
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henkster
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06/04/2012 5:16:44 PM PDT
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henkster
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