Menzies fanboy....overall for catalog.
Posted on 04/25/2012 4:58:58 PM PDT by Theoria
Menzies fanboy....overall for catalog.
I don't even want to think about it.
Great read! Thank you very much for posting it!
Thanks for posting. Fascinating.
Love the GGG list, love SunkenCiv's posts too. All that stuff. :)
Reality is stranger than fiction.
A very interesting read. Thanks for posting. As a young teen I read Thor Heyerdahl’s Kon-Tiki and was mesmerized by the adventure. At 17 I found myself in Oslo Norway on the second leg of an around the World trip. I made it a point to visit the Kon-Tiki Museum to see the actual Kon-Tiki. Quite an experience for a young man my age to see the actual craft I had read about in a book.
Casson writes that this arms race continued, eventually resulting in a "forty" -- 400 feet long, 50 wide, 70 high, manned by 4000 rowers, 400 deckhands, and 2850 marines. It never saw action.The Ancient MarinersAntigonus [the One-Eyed] wanted a fleet, not of triremes like the Athenian, but of the newer quadriremes and quinqeremes which, having proved their worth in the navy of Dionysius of Syracuse at the beginning of the century, were gradually making their way into eastern navies. Demetrius' ideas were even more grandiose: if quadriremes and quinqueremes, that is, "fours" and "fives," could be built, why not larger still? Under his watchful eye, in 315 BC, the Phoenician shipyards turned out some "sixes" and "sevens' for him. By 301 he had "eights," "nines," "tens," an "eleven," and even one great "thirteen". A dozen years later he added a "fifteen" and a "sixteen." ...when the Romans conquered Macedon in 168 they found the old ship there; it was no longer of any use in battle but they sailed it home, rowed it up the Tiber, and moored it at one of the city docks as a trophy. [pp 129-130]
by Lionel Casson
The Nale Tasih 2, a bamboo raft made with stone tools, on its epic 13-day journey from Timor to Australia, December 1998, travelling in 5-m waves.
Just how far did the Romans go? Is there a Roman ship off the Azores, as some say? Are there thousands of Phoenician and Roman amphora fragments on Salt Island in the Cape Verdes, as reported by the underwater salvor Robert Marx? Is the "Rio Wreck," at the bottom of Guanabara Bay near Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, a Roman ship that in ancient times was blown off course?
Twice a year London's Sunday Times phones me to ask if I know anything more about the Rio Wreck. The highly publicized amphoras Robert Marx found in the ship are in fact similar in shape to jars produced in kilns at Kouass, on the west coast of Morocco. The Rio jars look to be late versions of those jars, perhaps datable to the third century A.D. I have a large piece of one of the Rio jars, but no labs I have consulted have any clay similar in composition. So the edges of the earth for Rome, beyond India and Scotland and eastern Europe, remain shrouded in mystery.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1006058/posts
Erectus ahoy: prehistoric seafaring floats into view
Science News, Oct 18, 2003 by Bruce Bower
http://216.167.111.80/20031018/bob8.asp
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_16_164/ai_110459326/
Homo Erectus Crosses The Open Ocean
Wed, May 6, 2009
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/ecology/home-erectus-crosses-open-ocean/10658
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990860/posts
Briton to recreate first African circumnavigation
Mon 19 May 2008, 15:19 GMT
By Jeremy Lovell
http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnL19251251.html
Phoenicians Discovery Of America — More Evidence
Presented by:
Richard J. Karam, J.D.
Michel N. Laham, M.D.
http://www.sfslac.org/phoenicians2.htm
On Mogador (Berber "Amegdul") a piece of pottery bearing the name of Mago, general of Carthage, was found along with Corinthian pottery of circa 7th c BC, well before the suggested date for the Periplus of Hanno (sorry, I don't think I have the source of that info).TarshishReferences to the ships of Tarshish and to a place of that name, in the Old Testament, beginning with the time of Solomon (10the century), to the time of the prophets of the 8th and 7th centuries, make me think that by this designation the Cretan navigators and Crete itself were meant. The Minoan civilization survived until the great catastrophes of the 8th century and it would be strange if it and its maritive activities remained unmentioned in the Old Testament. The usual explanation puts Tarshish in Spain, though other identifications are offered, like Tarsus, in Asia Minor. One of the old names for Knossos sounds like Tarshish. [see also "Tarshish" on p 252, and "Tharshish" near p 126, Ages in Chaos]
by Immanuel VelikovskyCaphtorThe island Caphtor is named in the Scriptures. The usual identification is Crete, because the Keftiu bringing presents (vases) to Egyptian pharaohs are thought to be Cretans. I prefer Cyprus as the biblical Caphtor and the Egyptian Keftiu. If Caphtor is not Cyprus, then the Old Testament completely omits reference to this large island close to the Syrian coast. The phonetics of the name also point to Cyprus. Separately I show that Tarshish was the name of Crete. It seems that the Philistines arrived in Palestine from Caphtor following the catastrophe that brought there the Israelites after their wandering in the Desert.
by Immanuel Velikovsky
The Voyage of Hanno
Livio Stecchini
http://www.metrum.org/mapping/hanno.htm
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a comment so i can find this later...
mark...
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