Posted on 03/19/2012 12:49:51 PM PDT by Morgana
I cant recall if I first heard about him through an e-mail or a phone call. But I know that when I spoke to him on the phone, he was desperate. A normal working father who already had three other children, he wanted to know if there was something he could do to stop his wife from killing one of their children.
Now, if I stopped here with the details of my story and let you ponder the paragraph above, you would understandably be horrified. Why would a mother want to kill her youngest child? Why would the father have to call for outside help to stop her? Do nightmares like this actually happen?
Yes. They do. All the time. But the detail I left out is that this fathers youngest child was unborn. Although he and his wife had agreed to have this child had both wanted this child she changed her mind one day. And there was nothing he could do about it. Until a baby is born, a father has exactly no say and no rights in whether that child lives or dies.
Though I did what I could to help this father (I had a wonderful counselor talk to his wife and got a great attorney to help him), in the end, his baby was killed anyway. In a heartbreaking turn of events, the mother canceled her first abortion appointment only to schedule another one later on. The baby never had a chance. This situation remains one of the most horrible and discouraging things I have ever been involved with in my life.
As a mere outsider, I experienced such a feeling of helplessness. I cant imagine what the father experienced. When I heard that the baby had been aborted, I felt responsible. Clearly, I hadnt said the right thing. Clearly, I hadnt done enough. What must the father have been going through when his wife broke the news to him? Though its been a few years since this occurred, Im sure the father will never get over the intentional death of his child, caused by the childs own mother and his own wife. Can a more horrible thing happen to a loving father?
This father would never hold his tiny baby in his strong arms for the very first time. He would never watch her if she was a daughter dance in the grass with flowery shoes and a flowing dress. He would never cheer him on if he was a son in the final football game of his high school career. This fathers only memory of his child would be how hard he had fought to save its precious life.
I share this story (with changed and omitted details to protect the parties involved) as an illustration of the cruel silencing of men that is taking place in our society. Laura Peredo and Nancy Flanders have already written about why men should have a right to speak out for the lives of children, just as women do. How can the pro-choice side command men to shut their mouths when it comes to saving babies, but demand that they pay for the methods women use to kill those same babies?
In a cruel twist of fate caused by an attempt to elevate women to an equal place in society, the baldfaced lies of its my body and its my choice have silenced men. Legally speaking, men have zero rights. Fathers who want to protect their children have had their hands tied by the law.
A judge heard the case of the father who was trying to stop his wife from killing their child. And though I am told the judge wanted to rule for the father you could see it in his eyes he found no legal basis for doing so. The childs mother was free to take this precious new life, at her whim and pleasure. (Now, I do think that a judge could find otherwise. In fact, different fathers bringing cases may be one of the ways to change the law concerning fathers rights.)
Please, fathers, dont give up. While I cant make specific recommendations on individual cases that Im not familiar with, as an attorney, I would say that fathers in general should consider challenging the law if their wife/girlfriend/childs mother wants to have an abortion. Her right to kill your child can be challenged in court. Speak out for your child. We can never be sure when a father will get in front of the right judge who is willing to change the horrible state of the law when it comes to fathers rights.
The baby is not the mothers body. He or she is a unique individual. The babys life should not hang in the balance of the mothers choice. If a father wants to stand up for the right of his child to live, his voice should be welcomed and listened to. He should be given the right to care for that child himself, if he is willing.
well what else would you call it? at least with someone running for office your only stuck with them for 2-6 years if you select a bad apple.
When you marry one it’s for life.
Chose wisely ;)
The point is about fathers having the right to protect the lives of their children; invariably, when such articles are put on forums, some will sidetrack the discussion by going on about “irresponsible” fathers. That sidetracking has the effect of rendering good fathers - the majority - invisible by placing the focus on “irresponsible” fathers instead.
That noted, the points in your more recent post are accurate. It is insanity for society to tell men - as it does by having abortion as a legal choice for women - that they should be ambivalent about whether their children live or die between conception and birth and then suddenly feel a sense of responsibility to those same children upon birth.
That is a society-killing disconnect.
It results in women who abort being sociopath bitches who profess that they can do whatever they want to whomever they want, regardless of who gets hurt or killed.
It results in men stripped of any reason to care about the future.
In short, it’s the death of civilization.
The kindest thing Margaret Sangers parents could have done
for the world would have been to kill her.
Witch
The intent is not to sidetrack, but point out the ridiculous inconsistency of the law which renders men bystanders to the whole process.
And you're right. It results in men stripped of any reason to care about the future.
But good men care anyway and get involved.
If a man is on the hook financially for 18 years if the baby is born, why doesn’t he get a say in what that THIRD life has happen to it?
If a woman opts to not abort, should the man be absolved of financial responsibility? Why does the woman get to shirk her OWN responsibility to that living child?
Deadbeat dad laws are BULLSTALIN. I think they should pay what they owe.
I have never been married. I have no kids.
I have to show my socialist insecurity card to renew my driver’s license because of the State’s laws on deadbeat dads and denying them licenses.
I have NO sympathy for those who don’t want to show IDs to vote. I get far more anal probing to drive a car.
The kindest thing Margaret Sangers parents could have done
for the world would have been to kill her.
Witch
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And that is an insult to witches!!
With that said yes she was an evil person.
I understand what you are saying and agree. Unfortunately the courts take the stand that the welfare of the child comes first (but only if has actually been born). So until it is born they say it is all the womans body and she can do what she wants. Once the child is born the male must provide for it because it is best for the child. I do not agree with any of it but it is what it is.
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