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Rutgers Student Conviction of "Hate Crime"

Posted on 03/16/2012 10:19:54 AM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

I just read a college student was convicted of a hate crime because his web cam caught the other student in his dorm room kissing another man one time and then the queer student killed himself by jumping off a bridge - can someone tell me if this is an invasion of privacy and what the hell sort of charge is "bias intimidation?" This sounds like a politically correct witch hunt for an unstable deviant.


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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

Only the government can tape anybody at stoplights, streetcorners, buildings, and you name it. But hey, a perverted young kid gets taped being molested by a 35 YO man, and the person taping is the guilty, not the older guy. Pandering to the perverts.


21 posted on 03/16/2012 10:53:23 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: BykrBayb

good point.

there is no way we’d hear about this if a jock had been caught having sex with a cheerleader and the jock had killed himself, infact it would be classed as a prank gone wrong but because a queer has killed himself then this will be heard for years yet again.

Then the sheep , millions of them in this country sit there taking all the MSM lies in.


22 posted on 03/16/2012 10:57:50 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: BykrBayb
why did he commit suicide over being outed in such a public way?

There's not any evidence that's what motivated him to commit suicide. In fact, there's quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.

For all we know, he could have received a call from his boyfriend, "M.B." that he wanted to break off the relationship and that's what motivated the suicide.

23 posted on 03/16/2012 10:59:44 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: BykrBayb
why did he commit suicide over being outed in such a public way?

There's not any evidence that's what motivated him to commit suicide. In fact, there's quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.

For all we know, he could have received a call from his boyfriend, "M.B." that he wanted to break off the relationship and that's what motivated the suicide.

24 posted on 03/16/2012 11:04:58 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
If this is the case I'm thinking of, the individual being taped was in the closet.

This is a different case. Clementi was out of the closet and he wasn't taped.

25 posted on 03/16/2012 11:06:45 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Neoliberalnot

just read the CIA saying they can see us through our TV’s, so the Govt can take photo’s of us, see us, hear us, spy on us , Google can send trucks round to take photo’s of us , our cars, our houses etc, there there are camera’s on the street, lights, corners, in stores etc.
The MSM can take photo’s and dig into certain peoples past and lives like Sarah and Joe the plumber and try to ruin them

But this kid puts a camera in his room and that is not right.

All because a mentally sick homosexual kid topped himself.

The most this kid should get is invasion of privacy and even that is a stretch because it was his room which was shared and it was his room mate the queer which brought another man in and had sex with him, sick to even write that.

Don’t even get me started on the hate crime bill, AARRGGHHH, That and the racist affirmative action piss me off so much and not one top republican has the guts to take those bills on.

So I have it right.
Homosexuals are the most protected class,
Then Cross dressers and those who self mutilate themselves.
Then illegals
blacks or is it muslims?
women
liberal
handicapped?
union

What ever the list goes white Christian straight normal healthy married men are at the bottom of the list.

Why because we have a hate crime bill, see when a crime on the white male is done it is a love crime to the left’s view, all crime done to the list above is a hate crime.

What a complete joke this crap is.

Homosexual starts a fight with me and he goes t hit me, I defend myself and hit him back, he goes down.
I get arrested because the homo said I jumped him because he’s a a queer

Homosexual groups come in from the north and west part of the country and demand I be done and put away for 20 years under this law.

This is completely nuts and should be scrapped


26 posted on 03/16/2012 11:07:11 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

Bullies and other predators rarely choose strong people as their targets. The fact that his victim had a weakness that was easily exploited is no excuse.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 11:09:40 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

bullies have always been the left, they bullied into getting a bill called the hate crime bill which is stupid and puts people into classes as if some are worth more than others.

This is not national news at all, this is about pushing a homosexual agenda.
The homosexual obviously had mental problems in the first place, he got caught having sex but if this had been done to a straight white Christian jock then we’d never hear about it.

If this homosexual was worried about privacy then maybe they should have gone somewhere where it was private but your room which is shared is certainly not private.

Yet again the homosexual bullies and the left will now bully others to pass more laws over this and probably name the law after a mentally sick homosexual and we’ll hear about this for years


28 posted on 03/16/2012 11:15:52 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

There’s a lot of truth in what you say. Still, this guy responded by bullying his roommate to the point of suicide. That’s just wrong.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 11:31:18 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

respectfully beg to differ.
I would not call it bullying at all and if this mentally sick homosexual wanted privacy he would have gone to a private place to have his sex.

We are responsible for our own actions, he wanted himself dead, he obviously had mental problems and like I said if this had been a straight white jock then we would not have heard about it but because homosexuals are now a protected class under an insane hate crime law then the MSM thinks this is national news when it is not.


30 posted on 03/16/2012 11:35:56 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

I agree with most of what you’ve said, and I’d like to talk more about it, but Hubby needs attention. Have a blessed day.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 11:49:09 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: 1rudeboy

There was no taping that the Prosecution could come up with, but there’s no invasion of privacy when it’s your own room. Dorm rooms really aren’t the same as your bedroom in your home.


32 posted on 03/16/2012 11:57:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GeronL
He had a desk top computer in his room. He hooked a camera up to it. You really can't do all that much to hide those things ~ about 30 inches of cable, max.

The layout they showed in the trial seemed quite rational for a desk in a dorm room.

There didn't seem to be anything surreptitious about what Ravi had done.

33 posted on 03/16/2012 11:59:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 1rudeboy
Ravi didn't give the unknown stranger permission to take his clothes off in his room.

And, interestingly enough, you can't prove that Clementi gave the unknown stranger such permission either.

34 posted on 03/16/2012 12:02:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BykrBayb
Not really ~ Clamenti was bullying his rather naive roommate ~

These folks were all Freshmen and school was just starting.

The older male should have known better than to mess around in a room where the other roommate was straight.

Let's add the older male to the cast of bullies BTW.

35 posted on 03/16/2012 12:07:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: manc

Agreed. We have to ask why the 30 something year old man that molested this sick kid is not even mentioned. If I was the parent this guy would be running scared.


36 posted on 03/16/2012 12:24:09 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

good point.

Why was this young kid being taken advantaged of by a much older man and why did the school allow for this man to come on campus.

Maybe the school needs suing too as they should not let people onto campus who do not belong.

See we can all point fingers and blame but int he end this kid had mental problems, he was taken advantage of, the school did not stop people on campus and if he wanted privacy then go off campus but don’t expect privacy in a shared room on campus.

Fact is that the homosexual kid topped himself because he wanted to and that lies at his feet .

Course the left propaganda group cal;led the MSM will spin this as if the Indian kid is the devil himself


37 posted on 03/16/2012 12:39:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

I guarantee the prosecuting lawyer stacked the jury with homosexuals and homophiles. Yes, no one pushed the kid off the bridge—he was clearly demented.


38 posted on 03/16/2012 1:09:04 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

oh I bet you’re right, the jury was comprised of homosexuals , pansy men, and liberal women.

This Indian kid never had a chance up there in court and now this case just demonstrates that the left thinks they are not responsible for their own actions and will milk this for years now.

How they the left have their selective outrage and how their pals in the MSM cover for their agenda , it’s quite something.


39 posted on 03/16/2012 1:14:38 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

“What ever the list goes white Christian straight normal healthy married men are at the bottom of the list.”

The only thing white Christian straight men get is the blame for everything.


40 posted on 03/16/2012 1:42:52 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Common sense isn't a blessing. It's a curse because you have to deal with those who don't have it.)
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