Posted on 02/14/2012 5:07:09 PM PST by nuconvert
This is the 2nd & final night, culminating in Best in Show.
Tuesday, February 14 - 8-11 p.m. (ET) live on USA Network
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Best In Show
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww what cutie pies
I loved the show. Appreciate your knowledge of the breed, so I have a question. Would the judge feel any pressure to choose this Pekingese because 116 previous judges had chosen this one before her?
I thought the Peke was beautiful; in fact, I loved all the dogs. Just was wondering how judges make their decisions. Can they block out everything that’s gone on before, and just choose the one they think is Best? Since you are an insider, I thought you could enlighten those of us who need it.
“how the judges make their decisions”
I think the whole thing’s bogus. You can compare vislas to other vislas, or Rotts to Rotts, but there’s no way to judge between other breeds.
On the other hand, comparing Siamese cats now, with the pointy faces, to the Siamese of the past with rounder faces, is purely a matter of style and opinion. Similar situation and also bogus.
My 2 cents
I cannot express how disappointed I am with the results of this show. 1000s of beautiful dogs at Madison Square Garden and that floozie judge chooses something that looks like a disease! I just can’t believe it.
Was there graft going on?
I noticed that the Garden officials dragged somebody out of the grandstand just as they introduced the judge for Best in Show. Does anybody know what that was all about? I was so disgusted with her final decision that I switched channels afterward and do not know if they ever expplained what caused them to drag someone out just as the judge entered.
I cannot express how disappointed I am with the results of this show. 1000s of beautiful dogs at Madison Square Garden and that floozie judge chooses something that looks like a disease! I just can’t believe it.
Was there graft going on?
I noticed that the Garden officials dragged somebody out of the grandstand just as they introduced the judge for Best in Show. Does anybody know what that was all about? I was so disgusted with her final decision that I switched channels afterward and do not know if they ever expplained what caused them to drag someone out just as the judge entered.
I think the Irish should have won. I also liked the Dalmation and the rough coated Dachsund. I could have made a case for either of those dogs.
The ugliest dog at the show was the Pekinese. I don’t understand what they have done to that breed in recent years. Pekinese dogs were cute little animals when I was a kid, but this ugly show cut that is popular now makes them look like a disease.
All you had to do is to look at what the judge was wearing to see that she had no taste in clothes; thus, no taste in dogs! 1000s of gorgeous dogs at the Garden, and that ugly Peke was Best in Show? NOT!
The Doberman was beautiful. The Peke was outstanding.
I thought it was a great show this year, and the selection of dogs was excellent. (with the exception of the winner of hound group, imho)
My older Border Collie helped a local dairy farmer round up some dairy beef that found their way through fences and into the woods last summer. As he said his dogs (hounds) didn't know what a cow was. I simply asked my girl where are the cows, she looked in their general direction. When I told her to go get them, she herded them back to my field. He was very impressed, as was I, she'd not worked any large live stock before. She's a GOOD Girl!True to her breed
We've had more than one "Timmy's in the well" moments with her care of dad. She knows it's her job to look after him.
She sounds like a great dog. : )
Mine are both 15lbs or under. My Pom mix (I think she’s a Papiranian (papillon mix), though there’s been discussion of her being a Pom/Schipperke), is my constant shadow and the barker of the 2. They’re both rescue dogs, adopted at about 5yrs old each, about 8 months apart.
They don’t herd anything, but they keep me busy. lol.
(also have 2 cats)
This is what a Peke should look like. Does that look like that floor mop that the judge chose? I've been searching for pictures of Pekes from my childhood to illustrate the difference. I used to think that the Pekinese breed was adorable, but not the abomination that is in fashion today.
Malachy, Best in Show (Ugh!) He looks like a enlarged picture of a leech -- all that hair and those evil little teeth!
Absolutely! Your first picture is what I remember a Peke should look like, not like that hair ball that won! I haven’t seen one in a long time now that I think about it.
“anyone who thinks watching this is stupid” probably thinks nothing of wasting their whole weekend watching football games on the boob tube. To each his own.
The top photo is what my Peke resembles. However, it’s my understanding that there are 2 types....one is the type with all the hair, like they show at Westminster, and the other is a spaniel type, like mine.
Westminster issues invitations each year to the dogs with the most points in each recognized breed club. I thihnk it’s the top 5. The number of dogs your dog has defeated in AKC breed competitions determines the points. The standings are determined for points earned from January 1 until October 31 of the year before the show. If you didn’t get an invitation, then you can complete an entry form for your dog to get in.
What this means is that basically, your dog has to be on the road attending shows pretty much all year long, and winning. A small fortune is spent traveling, advertising, usually paying handlers, etc. to get enough BOB’s to get enough points. The BEST of the breeds are more often than not, staying home, laying beside their owners while they are watching Westminster. I can assure you that in my breed, the ones at Westminster are almost always not the best. Also, several were pulled this year for political reasons so they wouldn’t compete against this one woman’s dog. She even pulled her bitch hoping she could win with the boy that she herself bred. He was all dyed up and too long in body, movement not good at all, not nearly enough bone for a dog.. luckily the judge saw it.
Her dog lost and it was sweet to see him lose and a very nice dog beat him, one that wasn’t dyed and altered. I think her glory days of wins with dogs with bad fronts, dyed, and trimmed(no trimming is allowed) are over, thank God. Hopefully she moves on to another breed which is what she has done in the past. She thinks she can buy the wins at Westminster by spending thousands of dollars in advertising and thousands more by using top handlers. I feel bad for her dogs, they never go home and I mean never. Once in a while after they get the points she lets them come home for a few weeks in December but they basically live with the handler.
Westminster says these dogs are pampered. Far from it. If by pampered they mean groomed, fed premium food, etc., sure they are.... but being on the road every week of the year, being in crates, showing every weekend, traveling all week to the next show, that’s not pampered, it’s grueling. The real pampered show dogs are usually the ones that are owner handled and shown when they feel like it.
I’m confused: why would a poodle be in the NON-sporting class? Were they not bred as hunting dogs, and that silly hairdo an homage to keeping those parts warm in the cold weather while working?
Sounds like a bunch of snobs to me.
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They are and like I said in my other post, they aren’t the best, they are the ones that won the most because they were showed the most. Westminster is a political dog show and there isn’t a single person who shows dogs or breeds dogs that doesn’t know that.
Granted, most of the dogs there are nice examples of the breed, BUT are they the best out there? ABSOLUTELY NOT! For every dog that is aiming for Westminster, there are thousands that get their championships and never shown again, or only specialed when the owner feels like it.
When a dog with a horrible front wins Best of Breed twice in a row, something is rotten in Denmark.
I was looking for them too. I think they identified it as a parsons terrier. (Parson Jack Russell)
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