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To: Lancey Howard

Should we have trusted Ronald Reagan when he changed from many years as a democrat and a union official to conservative sounding republican? Should we believe in a war hawk Robert McNamara during Viet-Nam war conversion into a profound pacifist in later years?

My answer is some transformations are genuine and some are suspect. Flip flop once and you are still in the game. Flip flop twice on the same issue and you are out for good.


13 posted on 02/13/2012 12:07:49 AM PST by entropy12 (Islam is intolerant of every other religion.)
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To: entropy12

So.... Make the case for your guy.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 12:20:23 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: entropy12

Please tell me you’re not trying to compare Mittens to Reagan..


21 posted on 02/13/2012 12:55:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: entropy12

Okay, when Romney has a 20 year record of being a clear voice in defense of conservatism then I’ll believe his conversion as sincere.

Reagan’s conversion was complete long, long, long before he sought the presidency. Romney’s conversion only came about once he started running for president.

And McNamara, wasn’t running for anything when he went Looney, he was just following the rest of his party which went from staunch anti-commie, to pro commie.


30 posted on 02/13/2012 1:42:04 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: entropy12

If you are advocating romney having destroyed his chances because he’s a weak sister, you should be ashamed of yourself.


37 posted on 02/13/2012 4:26:05 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: entropy12

Romney hasn’t flipped the first time yet. Saying something isn’t doing something. He is still a lib, still a RINO, and still the arch-nemesis of conservatives. Reagan spent decades FIGHTING for conservatism. Romney has spent a few cycles fighting to convince conservatives that he doesn’t need to prove himself. Sorry, we do have other options.


43 posted on 02/13/2012 6:07:19 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: entropy12
Should we have trusted Ronald Reagan when he changed from many years as a democrat and a union official to conservative sounding republican?

You mean Captain Reagan who by the second half of the 1940s was already starting to be seen as a communist fighting conservative, testifying to Congress and naming names, working with the FBI, having to carry a gun for self defense from the left, Reagan?

The Reagan who by 1952 was campaigning for Republicans like Eisenhower, who he campaigned for again in 1956, and then campaigned for Nixon against JFK in 1960, already having earned a reputation as an active speaker for conservatism for years?

The Reagan who formally registered Republican in 1962 and spoke at the Goldwater convention in 1964?

Reagan was famous for his conservatism before the Vietnam War, and the Great Society, Roe V Wade, the abortion wars, Jimmy Carter, decades of Cold War defeats, and the radical 1960s, before the Reagan Revolution and the Contract with America, and Clinton, and the Gore election of 2000, Mitt Romney would not even register Republican during the Reagan Presidency or vote for him. Romney, at almost age 60, had a stroke (or something) and suddenly, unexplainedly, became a totally different person around 2006, merely to run for national office.

Reagan and Romney have nothing in common.

56 posted on 02/13/2012 8:38:43 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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